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They were trained by cheap labor in African countries, using abusive practices with no consideration for ethical concerns. The worst part is they didn't even care about how this would be seen by the public, since the public is just so blindingly hyped on it.

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Do you have a smartphone? Pretty sure it was assembled by cheap labor in third-world countries using abusive practices with no consideration for ethical concerns. Maybe you have a laptop? Same story. Did you consider this before purchasing and using these devices?

It doesn't seem helpful to try to impugn a person's morals in an effort to discredit a valid concern.

(And I say this as someone who does think about electronics supply chains, has previously owned a Fairphone and since has only purchased second-hand phones.)

It's not helpful neither fair to attach systemic issues of capitalism to the novel technology you personally don't like.

Yes this is a valid concern. Yet it's about the same as jumping on a random person in the grocery store with a lecture about the unsustainability of the product that person is taking off the shelf.

Sadly, buying second-hand devices for personal use won't affect these issues of the economic system we live in.

I am making no statements about anyone's morals.

This isn't a grocery store, it's a comment threat incited by a highly positive take on AI. I think that's an appropriate place to mention these issues.

Exactly, plus the kinds of things these people were forced to see are very illegal in the US. And eventually they had to get out of that job, despite not having good economic alternatives.

There’s a difference between violation of working conditions like working hours/underpayment, and forcing people to view the kinds of pictures they were forced to see ad nauseam

They were trained by people who agreed to do a job in exchange for payment.

I don’t think they agreed to see the kinds of things they ended up seeing. As a result, they actually pushed to eventually excuse themselves from those jobs, despite not having a good alternative. That’s how bad it was.

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