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If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
Edit:oof, checked his profile like he suggested and in just two pages of history he’s engaged in climate change denial and covid vaccine conspiracies. Buddy, I don’t think using 4chan to “train my brain’s spam filter” is working too well for you. You’ve got a mind so open your brain fell out.
> (Check my history if you don't believe me.)
That's not the stance of someone rational.
Also I think it's extremely generous to give this fellow the benefit of the doubt on "the jews" vs. "Israel", but that is what HN guidelines generally suggest.
Going against the common consensus can make you feel like you have hidden knowledge and you even could, but a certain type of personality gets addicted to that feeling and reflexively seeks to always go against any consensus, regardless of the facts
At some point in life I hope that you find yourself on the precipice of life and death. Not as a threat or because I wish harm upon anyone. It is only when you are faced with that choice for real that you decide whether you want to be that sad person that allows others to dictate their emotional state.
Nevertheless, you are right. And so I have burned my fingers plenty.
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I learned at a young age that I am to be the universal asshole, and for a very long time I was not okay. It took a substantial part of my life to get to a point where I am able to be okay with that.
As for others, they rarely understand why I am the way I am, and that too is okay.
We are all here to grow and eventually realise that we all need each other to survive, so we compromise, we adapt, and we ignore the ugly parts of others so they will tolerate the ugly parts of ourselves.
I feel like a guru now, anyways I'm going to bed.
Enjoy
> Due to circumstances beyond my control, I learned at a young age that I am to be the universal asshole, and for a very long time I was not okay.
No you’re not required to be the “universal asshole”. That’s a choice you are making everytime you have the chance to be better and decide to go with the easy path of being a dick. You have the agency to do otherwise and you don’t get to absolve yourself of those choices.
You’re not a guru, you’re just anti social
Luckily I grew out of it and learned empathy. But not everyone is as lucky as I was.
Ouch
That seems like one possible explanation for the comment. ;-)
Wow an edgy white man not offended at seeing racism and transphobia, so brave.
Sorry if it comes as blunt but I find no better way of saying it, you just don't understand the culture of the site, which is meant to filter people like you.
They are just words on a screen from an anonymous person somewhere. Easily thrown, easily dismissed. It makes no sense to be offended because some guy I don't know and who doesn't know me calls me something.
It also never was a normal or common thing and the administration of the site never set themselves to let it happen in any manner afaik. To a large degree it was a product of a different time on the internet.
It seems on the surface that you are all there as equals bashing one another but that's not exactly true, there's a hierarchy you find out the moment you say something actually cutting about white guys and you experience the fury of a 1000 sons.
- Haha look at all those Gen Z snowflakes getting offended at words.
- Okay sure, but the ability to not get offended is related to whether or not you're a target of their bullshit or not; 4chan trolls get extremely offended and unjerk the moment you turn the lens toward them. By 4chan's own standards it's actually pretty reasonable to be offended by their antics.
- But have you considered plugging your ears and not reading it?
So we've gone from 4chan isn't offensive it's just words to yes it is offensive and you shouldn't read it if they say things that target you which was my original point.
tl;dr if you're not offended by 4chan they're not actually saying anything offensive about you even though it might appear so superficially; 4chan just has a different list of things you can't say.
You realise you've been arguing with multiple people expressing multiple opinions, right? You appear to be prone to binary thinking, so it might not be clear to you that your opponents don't form a single monolith.
> tl;dr if you're not offended by 4chan they're not actually saying anything offensive about you even though it might appear so superficially; 4chan just has a different list of things you can't say.
I'm not offended by the things 4chan users say because I don't visit 4chan. You should try it yourself. Getting so upset by words you disagree with on one forum that you feel the need to froth at the mouth about it on another forum doesn't seem healthy.
I think you assume a tone that I absolutely do not have. I couldn't care less about 4chan drama and I don't go there anymore for the reasons you listed. I'm talking about my own experience and trying to make my case for the, apparently controversial, idea that words can and do affect people and that total emotional detachment is the exception rather than the rule. And of course that's the case, 4chan's whole thing is using offensive language to select specifically for the subset of people who can tolerate it.
I’d rather have free speech and see constant posts about holocaust denial and oven jokes and just ignore them
You can browse 4chan because you don't have a strong emotional reaction to the shit they say, but if you did that would be fine too.
Is this just a new evolution in the discourse now where the kids are actually more sensitive? But that this fact is still condemnable or something?
Like I get it, kids are bad, but you guys have to narrow down your narrative here, you are all over the place.