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Comment by michielr | Hacker News Reader

I agree this was a problem, but with the current Minimal API's, there is no boilerplate, looks a lot like Express to me!

  var builder = WebApplication.CreateBuilder(args);
  var app = builder.Build();
  app.MapGet("/", () => "Hello World!");
  app.Run();

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>> The problem is the amount of ceremony, silly OOP abstractions, dependency injection, etc.

Your code snippet certainly has a lot of unnecessary ceremony. Why use a builder object at all? Why use a static class with a function to build the builder object?

  var builder = createBuilder(args);
  // etc...

Would be better. But

  var app = createWebApp(args);
  // etc...

Is even better. No ceremony at all!

There is a lot that gets done behind the scenes in createBuilder(). I understand where you're coming from, but this allows you to override any defaults that you don't like, in order to provide your own. I personally still stick to the standard MVC pattern, and don't go crazy with abstractions. I place my business logic within services and inject those in my controllers, but if you were to run a debugger, you would not have to jump through interfaces and other useless abstractions that were a thing of the past (and present if you follow current tutorials and books). I have used Node.JS, and still use it to provide my frontend developers with an environment using Express to build out templates using Gulp for minification/transpilation/compression for use in Umbraco (a .NET Core CMS). My frontend developers don't need to know C#, and can work in standard EJS templates and HTML, but benefit from SCSS and modern JavaScript. I can then build out the Razor syntax for views, and just drop their CSS and JS files directly into the CMS projects.

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