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Comment by lazide | Hacker News Reader

And yet, people know things all the time without evidence and due process.

They think they know. Many times, they're right too, but sometimes they're wrong. That's why evidence and due process are important.

Evidence and due process are important for convicting someone of a crime. You're not violating a basic human right when you deny a credit card transaction. The requirement for evidence and due process should be far lower, if even needed at all.

> You're not violating a basic human right when you deny a credit card transaction.

This doesn’t work when it’s something basic like payment processing. It’s the same reason we decided as a society that people can’t “trust their gut” and deny housing to people based on the color of their skin.

Housing is a basic human right. However you can deny housing to someone because they belong to a hate group.

Running a profitable online business is not even a basic human right. No one owes you payment processing. Forcing someone to be a supplier to a hate group violates their basic human rights. If payment processors were discriminating against a protected class such as race or age then you might have a point.

The whole reason we have notions of due process and evidence is because people are very commonly wrong when they make these sorts of judgement calls from their gut.

We are talking about denying a payment, not throwing someone in jail.

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