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As someone who owned 2 System76 machines, I would not say that noise ranks very high among issues they should tackle.

I find the noise to be intolerable on my Adder WS even at idle, but would agree that it's nowhere near the biggest problem. That would be software support. I have been using Linux laptops for ten years and the only one that has ever failed to reliably wake from sleep is my System76.

They're junk by every metric I know of. Expensive, too. They have nothing going for them.

I am right now using a Lenovo X1 that has that problem. Previous gen also had that problem. And the one before that. Waking up from sleep is apparently difficult.

I agree re: junk.

Their build quality feels poor. Sometimes it's hard to tell when an issue is just a vicissitude of using Linux or their fault, but I would overall not recommend.

Build quality is exactly what System76 is improving on by creating their first in-house laptop. All of System76's laptops to date have been adapted from designs from ODMs such as Clevo. When System76 moved their desktops in-house with their Thelio product line, they were well-built and well-received. I'm optimistic about their new Virgo laptop after seeing what they did with their Thelio desktops.

Oh interesting.

I would be willing to give them a shot one again one day (there are so few purveyors of pre-installed Linux computers), though not for the ~$1k Thelio costs.

Right now, WSL is working great for me, but Windows seems to be getting increasingly aggressive with wanting one to use their search, etc.

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