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Where in the post did he say something about Tesla?

I only find one unnamed source calling it a work of art and

>However, Toyota is not entirely sure that EVs made by Tesla or BYD would stand up to the company's rigorous internal quality standards.

Similar with VW, when their CEO talked about the amount of time their cars spent on the line and in QC versus Tesla, and he talked about it reaffirming that VW could and should spend time improving this, he still only talked about getting the numbers from approximately 3x to approximately 2x, which to me implied "We don't think Tesla does enough QC", which correlates with something I read that said approximately 70% of factory-new Tesla's need SC visits in the first month to correct delivery defects.

Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN, such as with snarks, swipes, or putdowns. You can make your substantive points without any of those things, which are destructive to curious conversation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Their 'innovations' often consists of disregarding established (established for a reason, best practises) methods because of Elmos' superiority and NIH complex. He is not an engineer, but an autocrat.

I could start with omitting s flame trench thing in Boca Chica b/c "it would take too lomg", the (illegal) changes to their Fremont paint shop and the resulting fires, not keeping spare parts available b/c of frequent iterations applied during production, skipping brake tests, shit design decisions leading to many broken ball joints on their control arms ("whompy wheels"), the "lets use touchscreens not certified for automotive usage" (resulting in yellowing and seeping glue issues)...

The customers and employees suffer.

SpaceX regularly lands rockets vertically on floating barges in the middle of the ocean. Tesla broke open and is dominating the electric car market. What on earth are you talking about.

> not keeping spare parts available b/c of frequent iterations applied during production

I think part of this also is that Elon is obsessed with the numbers. Deliveries, deliveries, deliveries. To him, every part sitting waiting on a shelf for service, repair, etc., is a part not going on a new build.

People needing service can wait, because they have no choice. The quarterly numbers can't wait.

Judging from me jacking up downvotes, i guess you guys still like to believe in Teslas and SpaceX innovations and superiority, so keep on doing that! Bringing down Enron, Theranos and others took a while too; this valid-venture-turned-into-a-fraud (Musks product is the stock price) is not so obvious. Stay tuned!

https://elonmusk.today/

When it does happen, it'll be because of woke politics for sure though, not because of any legitimate wrongdoing. Nothing will convince us Elon isn't the brilliant genius engineer maverick Rand foretold.

>NIH complex

Not Invented Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here

damn I definitely have this complex

Not Invented Here. Brought to you by the people who reinvented the wheel.

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