To say Glassdoor is a good candidate for disruption is not the same thing as saying they have some problems. Every product has some problems.
tbf it would probably suffice to have that information somewhere
- How do you verify that the reviews are actually from current/former employees?
- Can the data be open for the public to verify while protecting the people leaving reviews?
- How could the service get funding? Donation model?
- How would you overcome the initial issues with trust?
- How do you prevent companies from manipulating the scores/reviews?
- How do you handle legal challenges if you're based on something like a donation model? Companies would surely sue you at one point or another if they cannot take down reviews themselves
People who write review would have to upload recent pay slip or after when committing review provide their email at employee to receive some passcode active within 2 months
>- Can the data be open for the public to verify while protecting the people leaving reviews?
Verification explained above. Token to employee at employer domain email would be anonymous. Reviews would be randomly visible within 1-8 weeks after submission.
>- How could the service get funding? Donation model?
Jobs advertisement ads and website getting commission if someone got hired from advertised jobs like most agency get. Hired person would get small bonus for confirming got accepted.
>- How would you overcome the initial issues with trust?
Just reliable reviews that got verified with payslip and domain email and maybe even passport just to make sure employer doesn't create dozens of fake payslips and domain emails.
>- How do you prevent companies from manipulating the scores/reviews?
See above
>- How do you handle legal challenges if you're based on something like a donation model? Companies would surely sue you at one point or another if they cannot take down reviews themselves
Just create account in some law friendly country. Don't store any user data such as passport, payslip, user employee emails etc - after verifying just delete those
The employer controls their email domain.
>Just create account in some law friendly country. Don't store any user data such as passport, payslip, user employee emails etc - after verifying just delete those
The more you try to detach from the countries that will (possibly) make you retain that information (or block you from collecting it) the harder it is to do business with companies from those countries (or to enforce contracts against them for things like commissions).
If I was leaving a review, even if I cared about it a lot, and I'd have to upload a recent pay slip I'd just leave the site and not bother with it anymore.
I know a lot of HN users are in theory very distrustful about anything new but in practise still:
- using VPNs (even paid one don't guarantee your data is safe)
- tor
- open source password managers (w/o reading source code)
- Dropbox etc
- compiling random open source code first without reading
- having no issue telling hour rate or daily rate recruiter on linkedin when asked and attaching resume.
So what's so very sensitive in payslip if you already providing this kind of information to any recruiter?
I know 0% people out of my circle who would share payslips with any potential employers, even less any recruiter, while we frequently talk about our pay with each other and co-workers at our work.
By the way, another huge reason: images of paystubs can be and have been used by identity thieves to open fake accounts/loans, remotely.
The open source qualifier here is weird, like you're implying closed source managers are preferable, but then your objection can hardly be over reading the source code
Domestic violence victims who are trying to avoid being found? People seeing political asylum? Anyone who wants to maintain privacy? There's a number of reasons you would not want this information in pastebin.
I have a more hellish proposal: want to publish a review? Pay. Want to see reviews? Pay.
Small amounts of course, but I would like to see someone actually sign off assigning a budget for something like this in a sufficiently large organization.
If you rely on income from the same companies that are reviewed on your site it will inevitably become just as bad as glassdoor
No sane person is uploading a pay slip so they can leave a review on some internet site. In fact, I'd daresay the only reviews you'd see at that point are from individuals (or companies) with sufficient incentive to generate convincing-looking fake pay stubs.
where I am not only are salary ranges mandatory on job ads but company also have to publicly disclose a lot of stats wages/salaries. Median, average, quartiles etc. for all full time and part time employees.
Blind also targets having communities for people inside companies to talk, and facilitating discussion. Glassdoor is mainly about reviewing companies.
A site that requires your company email before you can post a negative review sounds like a honeypot.
I imagine HR would absolutely love to take that down.
So have up to a year after you leave the company I believe.
so yea, emails are not a trusworthy source of anything, but filtering singups based on addresses is very common.
See, also, Yelp & TripAdvisor.
Asking happy team members to review your company is no different than apps asking frequent users to review on the App Store.