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Comment by iJohnDoe | Hacker News Reader

Agreed. There have been many defenders of Firefox on HN. I’m not sure why after all the crap they have pulled over the years.

Unrelated mini rants.

1. They fill the default new tab page with garbage content. They have amazing reach with viewers. It’s a shame they can’t fill it with quality stuff. I understand you have to pay the bills, but at least find some balance.

2. Firefox 47.x was the greatest release. I’ve never been able to keep hundreds of tabs open with Firefox. Eventually Firefox eats up so much RAM and eventually crashes. Chromium based browsers can have multiple windows with hundreds of tabs each and not crash even after being open for days/weeks.

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My desktop has over 2000 tabs open in Firefox. Memory footprint is slightly over 3 gigs. I usually manage to keep the laptop tab count under 1000. Honestly I think you're the first person I've ever heard praise Chrome(ium) for gracefully handling high tab counts.

I'm not a fan Mitchell Baker or many of the ways Mozilla works these days. But in the pulling crap department, Google and Microsoft have given Mozilla a very low bar to clear.

One question... why?

It costs nothing to keep a tab (you had every intention to revisit later) open, especially when tabs can be auto unloaded to free up memory, either by an addon or the browser itself. Firefox unlike Chrome does not keep squashing more tabs in the tab strip forever, but lets them scroll horizontally out of sight to maintain a readable minimum width for each tab. Over a long enough period of time you can get 2000 open tabs. Modern browsers can handle it.

This is not my personal experience. If I let a tab alone and that tab has a looping GIF then Firefox get slower and unresponsive (and eat memory).

You can try it with an imgur link: https://imgur.com/gallery/gom01RZ (sfw, vid/loop of a boa constrictor drinking water from a glass).

Not what I asked.

>I’m not sure why after all the crap they have pulled over the years.

Have you seen the competition?

It may be disturbingly similar to trying to vote for a decent politician, but there are absolutely degrees of badness.

Plus there are still forks.

Yes. Brave does a demonstrably better job at protecting my privacy and not making unwarranted connections to third parties I did not ask for.

How can you guys ever trust Brave again after the whole affiliate link injection nonsense?

Link injection, ad replacement, their own cryptocurrency... It's close to getting bingo on the questionable behavior card.

Not to claim it's worse, of course. Chrome practically has the whole card filled in, and has to add extensions for the new terrible things they've invented. They're playing multi-dimensional 7x9x3i bingo.

The same way people trust Mozilla after the whole fake promotional add-on nonsense. Actually I have to give Brave the W here too: they appear capable of learning from their mistakes. Mozilla just keeps doing shady shit over and over and over again.

Brave seems to work just fine for me, and gets out of the way.

> I understand you have to pay the bills

You mean like the 5 mil per year CEO salary? Not sure if theat is really a need and not a want.

We need an open source browser that's not operated like a paypig for a for profit company. Funding should be handled via seeking grants and donations, not by selling out the users.

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