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RDF is not dependent on XML as a syntax. There's a text-based syntax in common use (Turtle), as well as a separate one based on JSON (JSON-LD).

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RDF primer but using Turtle (older doc):

https://www.w3.org/2007/02/turtle/primer/

Audio (etc) plugin format that uses .ttl:

https://lv2plug.in/

https://gitlab.com/lv2/lv2/-/tree/master/lv2/core.lv2

https://gitlab.com/lv2/lv2/-/tree/master/schemas.lv2

https://drobilla.net/software/sord https://drobilla.net/software/serd

drobilla has mentioned that, if there was a C JSON-LD lib, that might be enough to warrant an LV3

For more: https://github.com/lv2/lv2/wiki

P.S. not many people know that LV2 does modular synth style CV https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?t=20701&p=112242

As well as a nigh tabular form in "N-triples" and "N-quads"

https://www.w3.org/TR/n-triples/

https://www.w3.org/TR/n-quads/

which can end up as the easiest formats to work with sometimes.

There are tools like 'rapper' and 'serd' to convert to and from the various formats.

https://librdf.org/raptor/rapper.html

https://drobilla.net/software/serd.html

The problem is that they aren’t tabular and the examples they give which make them look simple are incomplete. For example, they rarely show examples that specify the language or data type. A truly tabular format is hextuples. https://github.com/ontola/hextuples

1000% agree.

My dabbling in that direction stopped at five (name-spaced) identifiers.

Effectively extending n-quads with an "edge" identifier. Mainly to eliminate blank-nodes but it handed the optional language & typing just fine and more importantly for my use case allowed for the uri to be expressed as curie (namespace) and a local_id each in their own column.

right, but they have a close association as OP says, and RDF is wrongly dismissed for similar reasons as XML (too complex, too much ceremony, too difficult, not enough value)

As somebody who worked with RDF and SPARQL for several years, none of these are actually true - RDF is very simple to work with (especially if you avoid XML stuff), can be operated on by basic string processing tools, and is conceptually pretty simple once you get into the right mindset. I think it's just suffering from bad documentation being overexposed and good examples under-exposed.

Can you please recommend me an intro tutorial? I’m trying to query DataCommons and it’s really hard to figure out even simple queries.

Wikidata has basic tutorial here https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_tutorial

Which has a lot of wikidata specific stuff but allows to get the basics.

I agree, it just has a bad reputation and there’s few obvious and well known success stories

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