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> He's pro free speech

Is he, aye? https://twitter.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1658208072215437314

Turkey is restricting them. so rather than have the site taken down They're doing with the government requires but still fighting it in court?

I mean I don't know what you want them to do

'Fighting in court' in this case would mean 'wait until the election are done, Erdoğan will then give us permission to unban them so we can claim victory'.

Shutting Twitter down in Turkey until the elections are done would have been an acceptable alternative.

they're providing free speech as far as the government allows them is what Musk committed to.

this is not Twitter's fault. this is the Turkish government.

Censoring opposition is distinctly not free speech. It would be better to shut down the platform for the period than remove certain voices. When only one side is allowed to speak, it gives the impression that they are a larger proportion of the population than they really are.

There's a difference between removing voices calling for violence and removing voices whose opinions go against the ruling party.

We don’t need to be “influenced by media” the tweets are there for everyone to see.

What tweets are you referring exactly?

If youre not basing your argument off of sources that means you're influenced most likely by propaganda.

You and the article author sound similar actually, just at different poles. Author doesn't bring up much other than saying that Musk isn't hardcore leftist and is kind of mean, therefore he's a nazi. You are along the same lines, that "with us or against us" attitude characteristic of extremely online types.

no I'm really saying if someone intensely dislikes Elon it's a good way to identify someone who is influenced by propaganda instead of reality

He angered me by his tweeter posts. It's clear that he is under right wing influence. Things like attack on Belling cat, anti ukraine position, his constant endorsing of right wing people on twitter by replying them with one ward messages. It's clear that he is trying to push right wing views, and it's richest man on the Earth. You have you average right wing idiot as a most powerful buiseness man, It's fucked up situation.

you claim he's anti-ukraine yet he sent starlink to Ukraine.

Elon responds to all kinds of people right wing and left wing with one word messages on Twitter,he's not ideologically driven ...that's the definition of free speech.

you and many others like the author of this article seem to be leaving out facts in order to demonize Elon.

I find Elon is a very good canary in the coal mine for how susceptible someone is to media propaganda.

He literally sent Ukraine starlink, a critical form of military aid, for a long time for free if I understand correctly. He still provides it. It probably cost him millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars to do this. But then he dared to have an opinion different from mass media establishment opinion ("maybe Ukraine should negotiate even if it's a possibly unfavorable peace treaty") and suddenly he's a right wing lunatic that you are allowed to hate. This is not an Elon Musk issue.

> But then he dared to have an opinion different from mass media establishment opinion ("maybe Ukraine should negotiate even if it's a possibly unfavorable peace treaty") and suddenly he's a right wing lunatic that you are allowed to hate. This is not an Elon Musk issue.

Yeah telling people to negotiate with the modern day nazis is not the way to go my dude.

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