https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101485/non-german-crime...
By the way, if we only consider non-Hispanic whites (this is a state-defined census category) America's homicide rate is 2.2:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/21/how-amer...
Yes, the kind of stuff called soci-economic factors.
> 40% of male homicide suspects in Germany are non-German
Okay to the homocide rate of "real" Germans is about 40% lower then?
Can you not just accept that "white" (however you like to define the term presently) men commit significantly more murders in America than in Germany?
Sure, I agree and I'm pointing out reasons as to why that is. I have never before heard gun policy lumped in with "socioeconomic factors."
My original point is that socioeconomic factors alone don't explain the gap in murder rates between e.g. black women and white men in the US and in other countries. Your argument to the contrary is woefully insufficient. Comparisons between the same race and sex in two similar cultures at similar income levels isn't enough.
We already know wealth and income correlate somewhat with crime. This effect is seen within racial groups. What we don't know is why large gaps exist between different groups at similar income levels. The effect is particularly stark and peculiar when it comes to violent crimes e.g. rape which have nothing to do with stealing to feed oneself.
What sort of violence are we talking about? Men are murdered far more often than women across the globe, at a ratio of about 4 to 1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender
Men are slightly more likely than women to experience domestic violence in the US, per the CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey:
https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs/NISVSReport...
However, woman are about twice as likely to become victims of sexual violence:
https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfa...
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender
You know this just seems like male on male violence to me ;)
https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1651437800842223616
Granted, they don't always do it with a droll non-sequitur.
No they don't.
No one believes that since most imprisoned murderers are men, there's systemic anti-male bias in the justice system. The relevant biological differences between sexes are acknowledged and accepted. I'm asking HNers to accept similar well-studied differences between ancestral genetic groups.
Refusal to acknowledge and accept these differences has already led to bad policy, such as de-policing America's black communities, which has cost hundreds of black men their lives in just the last few years. A minority of this minority is allowed to run wild and victimize their neighbors and society at large. This is plainly unsustainable. We can take our medicine now and accept the need to police violent criminals, even if they are black, or we can keep our heads in the sand until something far worse boils over. This is the core message of all my comments on this link and race issues at large.
Except if they were accepted in the way racists wanted race to be accepted, we'd crack down hard on freedom of movement for men.
A consistent racist would want us to pull our head out of the sand and more rigorously police the violent criminals that are, almost always men.
The data on the outsized violence of men is much more consistent, and dramatic, than the violence of any "ancestral genetic group".
Bananas. Where do you find this stuff?
>A consistent racist would want us to pull our head out of the sand and more rigorously police the violent criminals that are, almost always men.
We already police men way more than women, what's your point?
>The data on the outsized violence of men is much more consistent, and dramatic, than the violence of any "ancestral genetic group".
Read the last part again: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35943243
First, we'd ban all men.
Second, we'd ban everyone under the age of 30. Maybe everyone under 50 if we were feeling really fascist.
With these two evidence based restrictions, we'd effectively eliminate violent crime perpetrated by immigrants. That's the stark reality, and its so funny to see racists try to avoid these points.
> We already police men way more than women, what's your point?
We would need to put more police in places where men congregate to be truly consistent - like software companies. The de-policing of men's places of work like these, may be putting us at risk, after all.
I'm just being realistic.
What was the Human Genome Project for? Your mockery and denial, I guess. Why have scientists spent lifetimes improving DNA sequencing technologies, carefully gathering data, and drawing conclusion based on the evidence? So you could laugh it all off, I suppose.
Your refusal to acknowledge reality fails to budge reality. The natural world doesn't care about race or sex solipsism. Policy founded on reality-denial will always eventually fail and be replaced. Whether it fails hard or soft and what is allowed to replace it is the question of our time in America.
Initial definitions of white, didn't include Scottish and Irish people.