If you're bothered by social networks having access to a lot of very personal data, you're late to the game... if you're bothered because it's a different country, then welcome to the club.
The issue is which country has access to our very personal data, not simply a "different country". There are many countries whose citizens would trust a foreign government ahead of their own.
I live in a small eu country... and as in most other eu countries, any weird request from china (for extradition or whatever) would just get ignored... if US asked... well, just look at assange.
Okay and for the hundreds of millions of us who are not, do we prefer our govt knowing about us or the CCP.
I’m not a fan of the USG by any means - I have many many criticisms of the govt and I’ve participated in protests. To put contemporary USG and CCP in the same league is crazy talk.
There's no comparison.
"600 million people have less than 1,000 RMB monthly income" - Li Keqiang, ex-premier of the State Council of China.
I in no way support the chinese political system, but the one we have in the west (EU for me), made average rent higher than an average pension while buying is impossible for a huge percent of people due to overinflated prices. I used to live in a communist country (still live here, just the country doesn't exist anymore), and out of all the bad things they did, atleast they knew how to build affordable housing.
As someone from Europe, I strongly disagree. There's a HUGE fucking difference between China having our (western) data compared to the USA. Unsure why you'd even make such a silly argument.
And 24 million Taiwanese are far less likely to die due to US invasion of them.
I’m talking about disagreeing with the government. If you called out Biden for being worse than trump and he touches children and sniffs their hair. Nothing will happen to you. If you did that to Xi. You would end up in a reeducation camp.
But you’re like “how come I can’t claim to be part of a terrorist organization and then still travel to America”
Not even remotely similar.
Again, from the middle east the US is a much bigger threat. China isn't, at all. There is no denying that and no amount of "but you have free speech in the US!!" Matters in this context
> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.
Americans, welcome to the club of "the rest of the world"-ers, where foreign governments get access to our data :)
One of those two groups is much more likely to cause trouble for US citizens. The Chinese won't have so many ex-lovers looking up their old flame for example, simply because there aren't so many cross-country relationships. And China is less likely to brand Americans as domestic terrorists. The Chinese won't tempted to use it to enforce laws retroactively or hunt down minorities as the US government would be if it goes rogue. There are just less opportunities overall to abuse the knowledge.
They are everywhere and they are degrading content
The healthy adult thing to do would be to own up to it and work on fixing the problem.
“Why do you notice the splinter in your brother’s eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove that splinter from your eye,’ while the wooden beam is in your eye? You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye.”
Have to say it's a great strategy for maintaining a narrative.
...sadly.
Posting is warfare.
Yes, it's called focusing on a particular subject, the topic at hand.
Do you go into Snowden threads and complain that people are dumping the routine monitoring of their populace by the Chinese in the memory hole?