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I'm more scared of LSD than ever before, after hearing about that you see "scanlines" for ever after using it. Anyone got this after?

https://www.insider.com/9-years-after-acid-trip-man-has-pers...

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"My whole mouth went numb" This is a very strong indication for taking NBOME instead of LSD. From the article: "Looking back, I'm pretty certain that what I tried was not LSD." LSD would never numb your mouth. Just Google "LSD mouht numb reddit". Also, there's no lethal does of LSD, NBOM can easily kill you or screw you up just like in the article.

Everyone should always test thier substances before taking them to prevent these stories.

So do not fear LSD, fear NBOME.

Yup metallic taste almost certainly NBOME or another RC.

But even so, I didn't have any of these side effects from NBOME, even temporarily. It was just a shorter, more chaotic acid trip with a different kind of visuals and more cohesive consciousness/memory.

I have no regrets about LSD or any other chems I experienced. In fact I credit them with enabling me to finally understand what love is (and isn't).

Or rather, make sure you know what you're taking. Chemical reagent tests exist, so do fentanyl, NBOMe, bromo-dragonfly. Responsible use is no overly cautious joke.

I'm neither a fan of drug glorification nor FUD. The link is from someone who took lots of different substances very irresponsibily,

> I got some acid from a friend of a friend. It was some sort of pink substance smudged on the back of an Altoid, and I just popped the whole mint in my mouth.

AKA "a completely unknown pill with a friend's opinion".

I've done a fair amount of LSD, over years. I'm in my mid-40s, and it hasn't been all that long.

I've never had this. My partner - the person I've done it with the most - hasn't either. Nor have I known anyone.

That said, it isn't like I think this person is lying, but that it is something rare, as the article admits to at the end.

I'm not really trying to make you less scared - you do you, and don't do a drug you don't want to do - but trying to give some perspective.

Thanks for the article. It sounds very similar to what I dealt with after I took two tabs of what probably was DOx sold as LSD around 1990. Nearly 24 hour, intense trip with long term visual effects, depersonalization and derealization, and severe anxiety for years after. Funnily enough I also received a bipolar diagnosis.

Aside from fud the only thing that is known among psychadelic users is visual snow ( one of the hallmarks of HPPD) . this sometimes happens after extremely high doses of psychadelics

It's more than snow. I had years after where walls would breathe. I still (decades later) have issues with black text on white backgrounds.

Worst about visual snow is that the night sky is a busy mess and I never know if a light dot is actually real. Definitely too much LSD for to long

You can test your LSD. I think this is a key part missing in many horror stories. They didn't have clarity in what they were using. In Vienna they have a peg that will use a mass spectrometer and also give you a estimate on the strength of your tab. Very amazing form of harm reduction.

"The mind makes it real"

If you search for patterns in your "input data" you will find them. If you search for the patterns enough, your "mind" will automate the process. Then you have those "patterns" in your "normal" perception.

An example: if focus on the noice floor of you hearing for a few days you will begin to perceive tinnitus.

My hypothesis would be that the man from the article took the drug, became scared cause he perceived scan lines in is visual perception, then placed loots of attention on the scan lines to determine if they would go away. The attention he placed on the scan lines strengthened the perceptions and now he can’t undo the conditioning he did to his visual processing system.

* It sounds like it an NBOME, which is known for being less forgiving at higher doses than LSD. I think the lesson here is to test your drugs.

* I've also noticed people that are interested in tripping multiple days in a row tend to have worse outcomes than those that pace themselves. He credits the second trip with developing the problems.

* His primary complaint before he started taking drugs is that trauma lead him to become withdrawn. His primary complain now is that he feels a tendency to withdrawal from his family. It sounds like his biggest problem is the same before and after HPPD.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/06/06/hppd-and-the-specter-o...

Nope, I don't have it.

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