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The questions I always ask:

- Does it have atlest two m.2 slots?

- Can I have WIFI and WWAN (5G)?

- Can this fit 4 RAM sticks? (96-128G RAM)

- Does it have a 4k display? (it's 2023, come on!)

Still not many computers do offer these parameters :-( I'd love to have Framework laptop if it would offer these parameters.

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Two M.2 slots, two slots for 5G/WiFi and 4 RAM Slots? You're aware we're talking about a 13 inch device here, right? No way this fits into the 13 chassis.

It absolutely can. I don't really need a laptop that is razor thin :-)

A 4K resolution on a 13.5-inch monitor? That's almost as bad of a waste of GPU as mining bitcoin.

Just for fun I did some calculations, at 1080p a pixel is 0.1483 mm wide, at 4K it's 0.0742 mm. With the eye's angular resolution of 1 arcminute at say half a meter away, that's 500 mm * tan(1/60°) = 0.1455 mm. Even someone with perfect eyesight could hardly be able to tell. Do you intend to use it as a VR headset?

Most people use 2x scaling at that resolution and that helps predominantly the text quality as a single "superpixel" is made out of 4 pixels and many more subpixels.

So you're literally using it as a 1080p screen? Lmao.

Yes, since like 2012 with the MacBook Pro. That's how retina works. It's 2023 now.

And almost no PC laptop copies that concept. The benefit is simply not that compelling unless you are designing type faces maybe.

But maybe we boring PC people just can’t miss what we don’t know. Like Bentley cars or Champagne when we can get Toyotas and sparkling wine. ;)

...or maybe it's just market segmentation to give PC plebs inferior tech? You seem to be proud of being what some marketing exec views as an unimportant low-margin value segment only good for getting rid of old stuff.

It's probably an eye thing. I looked at higher resolution Macs carefully and I honestly cannot see the difference (despite not having known eyesight issues). I'm sure if I'd train my eyes enough I might end up seeing the difference, but I don't really see why I would want to train my eyes on that and then having to complain my whole life about standard screens not being good enough.

You might be right; I see pixels on 13" 1080p displays clearly so I simply have no choice.

I think the actual market segmentation is Apple charging a 300-400% markup for storage. Framework's prices are far more honest and you can always bring your own M.2s as well.

Agreed, Apple practices are atrocious and Framework seems like a better deal. But it looks like they scavenged unsold displays made for Microsoft Surface and can't source other ones with the same aspect ratio/size but better anywhere.

I think you should be waiting for their 16" model.

I absolutely will be :-) And I really hope that it will have these features as I would really love to have Framework laptop and support RtR!

Can I ask what workloads you’re running where 8TB storage and 64gb ram aren’t enough? On a laptop…

on a 13 inch laptop at that

M2 MacBook has 96GB at 14". One can use it to run LLaMA 4-bit instead of 3-bit.

I've run LLaMA 65B 4bit int using llama.cpp on an couple of year old laptop with 64GB of RAM. Not a bunch of extra left, but it does fit!

Qubes OS? Although 32GB RAM and 3TB storage are currently almost sufficient for me.

My laptop is my primary and only work machine. I run a lot of VMs and operations on some bigg-ish datasets.

RAM disks are quite a good way to expedite these things - along with two SSDs.

96GB is doable with 2x48GB DDR5 modules that will be available soon.

If you need 128GB of RAM then a 13 inch laptop is not what you need.

I usually go with are you consuming or creating. 13 inch is perfect for consuming but for some creating scenarios it may not be enough.

honestly I wonder if/how that much memory would affect battery life.

Honestly I'd go for ~15" or similar, but that's not the option (yet).

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