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> That's a straw man.

Then proceeded to talk about "melon sized breasts", which Krita's mascot doesn't have.

If there is an award of the lack of self-awareness, this comment deserves a nomination.

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Some of them certainly do. https://images.app.goo.gl/sXTmKVvErm9mgtQZA https://images.app.goo.gl/ucr6f7dfnBUeqMJe7

Still don't see them. You seem awfully keen to die on this hill, huh?

Heh. If any of the official Kiki images has a Kiki with melon-sized boobs, _I_ would have melon-sized boobs, and I've only been on HRT for a year and a half, and am an A-cup. (Aspiring to a B-cup, though!)

I guess using the word melon seems to have triggered some people, and is arguable given the cartoony proportions, but the links I put above are definitely adult boobs, and larger than B cup, relative to the torso/shoulders/arms. The boob size isn’t really the point, the subject matter as a whole just isn’t workplace material, right? I don’t quite understand all the pushback on the idea that these pictures aren’t completely neutral and aren’t 100% appropriate for the workplace.

I think I see your point and agree to certain extent; it is not about the breast size. Even if you see the splash screen from a distance where you can't specifically focus on the body parts, the image itself is reminiscent of typical explicit anime/manga involving young girls (even if there isn't anything particularly NSFW about the image itself). So yes, the potential/implicit connotations can certainly make someone and their co-workers uncomfortable.

Yeah exactly, nicely said, that’s really all I was trying to say, and thanks for replying. The size digression and unnecessary details are my fault.

Are these what you consider NSFW? Your job would have to be assistant to the pope for your workplace to be offended by these.

I didn’t call it unambiguously NSFW. The top comment (not mine) didn’t either, they used the qualifier “semi”. This obviously isn’t porn, it’s art. The famous Lena image has no breasts at all, and it’s considered semi NSFW. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna “it is no longer considered appropriate by some authors” … “Suggestive pictures used in lectures on image processing ... convey the message that the lecturer caters to the males only.”

You don’t have to be in a puritanical setting for some women and men around you to be uncomfortable with your pin-ups, regardless of which body parts are visible. They might never even say anything about it, and yet it can still be slightly inappropriate and/or unprofessional.

Thankfully the cartoon images don't share problematic aspects in common, such as coming from an old playboy shoot. They're not even suggestive of that.

Unfortunately some people still don’t care for these particular cartoon images for whatever reason as evidenced by multiple requests to disable the splash screen, here and elsewhere on the internet. If you believe strongly that these images are neutral and appropriate for work, by all means, show them!

So what? There’s a cli option for fundamentalists. I don’t believe they should be catered to excessively, and thankfully they are not.

> There’s a cli option

Yes exactly! That’s the controversial point that started this entire thread. Glad you came around and we are arguing the same viewpoint now.

I never would have mentioned it.

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