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There will be no “real dent”. You have to make small changes along with big changes.

And banning natural gas piped infrastructure is an easy win.

1. No one is banning natural gas stoves. You can still use a natural gas stove. You just need to bring your own cylinder like most of the world and half the food YouTubers already do.

2. Natural gas stoves have significant indoor pollution impact. It’s a huge benefit even outside the climate change side.

3. Natural gas infrastructure is expensive, dangerous and unnecessary. Cities will benefit from the removal of all those pipes from under their streets even if climate change wasn’t a thing.

Banning gas hookups is such an obvious win (again, for those who want, gas stoves are still available with a cylinder), it’s remarkable to see the level of status quo bias that exists.

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> Natural gas infrastructure is expensive, dangerous and unnecessary.

It’s been used and operated safely for hundreds of years in cities on the East Coast. The idea that it’s dangerous is simply FUD to scare people into spending $1000 on a future piece of e-waste to cook their food.

Do you mean induction stoves are e-waste? Why? They should be perfectly durable, no moving parts, simple operating principle. They aren't even super expensive and their price is going down.

Far more things that can go wrong with them though (at least compared to a standard gas stove). "Repairability" for electronics is considered a competitive disadvantage where companies want to force you to buy a whole new device instead of fixing the blown capacitor (or whatever the issue is).

Although the right to repair movement seems to be making some headway recently, so maybe all is not lost. Touch screens (with no alternative), and subscription service shoehorns need the same treatment, ban them.

EVs are still better than ICE. They simply need less maintenance. Same applies to induction stoves.

That would be a good way to actually make a difference because it not only makes using gas for cooking less attractive but it also makes gas heating and gas powered industry significantly more inconvenient!

EDIT: would probably be a political nightmare to implement though…

I don't think anyone that cooks for themselves genuinely thinks this. E-stovetops are literally a joke, designed by and for adult-infants that eat microwaved soup from Trader Joe's, not for real people that make real, delicious food.

Are "e-stovetops" induction?

Induction tops are orders of magnitude superior to coil-based stovetops, and are viable and possibly superior replacements for gas tops despite the cookware limitations and other issues; when their control schemes mature (no capacitive touch) and prices come down to the point of attainability for the unwashed masses they will be welcomed.

But, coil-based electric tops are an embarassment for anyone that sells them, installs them, and "uses" them.

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