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For people who have already trained to an elite level with regular weights.

since million years, human go at the gym and lift regular weights to get really strong, it's well known, how else would they do? They also eat protein mixtures

It's well known that at least since the antiquity humans were practising body weight exercises to strengthen themselves.

I don't know how Neanderthals got strong but I'm not sure they had a lot of rocks to carry regularly.

that's exactly what I meant, you can get strong without a gym and their specialised stuff, specialised diet etc.. all this is just consumerism

Cool. You do it your way and I'll do it my way and we'll see who gets results.

well, if your way can be as environmental-friendly as possible, all good (so no additional products, services, artificial food, etc)

and the "results" are a bit artificial as well, what matters is a strong core, legs, arms, but not the useless volume you get when lifting, because that's not a movement we do in our daily lives, we rather do small movements, static pauses, small weights. Better training for the right purposes

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