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If electric stoves are so much better than gas stoves, why do the gas stoves have to be banned?

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Because you can throw in a dirt cheap gas stove in a new build pretty easily.

Ah, so effectively this is just another tax on the poor and middle classes.

So is global warming.

Could you expand on that?

Poor people will be more impacted by global warming than rich people, because poor people tend to live in hotter climates, have less access to A/C, are more dependent on crop production for their livelihoods, and food prices impact them more since more of their income goes to food.

I guess it's more of a tax on the poor than on the middle class.

The poor property developers?

Edit: why would one assume that it isnt going to be taken out of their profit margins?

The people who buy and rent properties. They ultimately pay the price for artificially increased material/labor costs.

You think a manhattan apartment costs what it does because of the electric stove?

This is the definition of cherry picking.

Not to mention misrepresenting his argument.

Electric is easier though.

Plenty has been written about how we got here. I won't repeat it here but suffice it to say, it doesn't appear that consumers fairly weighing their options and choosing the "better" one had much to do with it.

I don't think people care so much about ovens as they do ranges, and there seems to be little awareness of induction. So when Americans think electric, they think coil burner, and those are awful.

> If electric stoves are so much better than gas stoves, why do the gas stoves have to be banned?

Because they’re not

This is not a bill about cooking efficiency. It’s about health.

Asbestos outperforms plaster in burn tests.

Then they should regulate health with performance specifications on vent hoods and banning new 80% furnaces. This is just performative governance without doing meaningful work.

I recall reading that even those gas stoves that have acceptable performance in certification tests do not perform to spec in the real world. I think it may have been consumer reports in conjunction with a university - they just stopped testing because not a single one in a single setting performed as advertised.

The performative governance was creating standards with no repercussions for not meeting the standards in the real world. The result is horrible indoor air quality linked to a range of health issues, particularly for children.

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