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Our cities have better things to focus on than an identity political attack on the folks growing our food.
Yeah, that's not going to work out the way the "cities" think.
My non-American interpretation of the use of fascism in this sense is relating to:
- taking away rights (e.g. abortion, and please don't argue technicalities)
- banning medical intervention which provably increases quality of life and decreases likelihood of self-harm
- suppressing dissident literature (e.g. recent "temporary" bans of books on Rosa Parks)
- lowering the threshold of the death penalty
- trying to introduce the death penalty for more things, especially what they call "grooming"
- associating entire groups of minorities with this idea of "grooming"
- aggressively suppressing and trying to exclude dissident politicians (e.g. the "Tennessee Three" or currently Zooey Zephyr)
- attempting to overthrow an election by both casting doubt in bad faith and literally working out plans on how to use a coup to take over power
Rural America leans toward conservative values, and from their point of view, the things conservative Americans would call "fascist" in today's political climate are things like:
- restrictions on gun rights
- institutions being required to cater marginalized social groups that they do not see as relevant to their communities
- required separations of church and state
- some contemporary public health requirements
- policies that disadvantage status-quo rural employers
Funnily enough, it's also widely accepted that fascist movements work hard to blur the meaning of words they don't like to be called.
Yes, and I was explicitly explaining my interpretation of what he meant. I didn't think I'd have to analyze this, but sure, here we go. The parent of the comment you linked wrote:
> At the rate the politics in rural America are being strangled by fascism, cities may have an imperative to deprive them of their subsidized agriculture. Especially if fuel costs continue to rise against electric generators.
They are saying that fascism is strangling rural America. This will both refer to fully rural areas, but also rural states (overwhelmingly red). He's proposing that the cities should deprive them of their subsidized agriculture, referring both to cities themselves, but also the states that are mostly influenced by cities (blue states).
This means that one answer to his question (what is meant by fascism strangling rural America) is the same as "what fascist actions are republicans taking in rural America", which I described in my comment.
Any further questions?
My non-American interpretation of the use of fascism in this sense is "any politics I disagree with".
>cities may have an imperative to deprive them of their subsidized agriculture
They are subsidized to provide agricultural products to the cities. Do you think rural America requires subsidies to provide for their own, if the population centres said we will no longer purchase food from you? They are small communities with lots of land.
Fascism has a simple definition that can be found in dictionaries.
“Fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.”
SOURCES:
- https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/what-f...
Are you saying that rural America does NOT vote for far right candidates that are overwhelmingly…
- anti-immigrant - pro-nationalistic - militaristic
If so, please provide any reading or data you might have on the subject. I’d love to read up more on rural America.