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> The stroke of a pen makes police do whatever they want so yeah.

You mean like when an order telling the police to remove people camped in front of military bases asking for a coup was signed in early December, but it took until the actual coup attempt in January for the police to actually do anything about it?

Okay, no, let's be completely fair. The police was since December making sure the camped people didn't spill over into the street and block traffic. So yeah, the supreme court controls at least Judy Hopps.

> Hell, I remember watching a video of one of these judges literally say out loud he was proud of being partial towards the communists.

Assuming this is true, I'd really like to know what communists they were talking about. The current party in government was already considered in the 80s to be center-left, and they only mellowed more towards the center in recent years, with pretty much all internal factions that had moderately radical ideas leaving the party. Emphasis mine on the last line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Party_(Brazil)#Fact...

- Workers' Cause (CO) – seceded from the party in 1990 as the Workers' Cause Party (PCO)

- Socialist Convergence [pt] (CS) – seceded in 1993 as part of Unified Workers' Socialist Party (PSTU)

- Workers' Socialist Current (CST) – seceded in 2004 to form the Socialism and Liberty Party (PSOL)

- Socialist Left Movement (MES) – seceded in 2004 to form the Socialism and Liberty Party (PSOL)

- Popular Socialist Action (APS) – seceded in 2005 and joined the Socialism and Liberty Party (PSOL)

- Tendency for the Workers' Revolutionary Party (TPOR) – Trotskyist faction that seceded in 1990 as the Workers' Revolutionary Party (POR)

- Marxist Left (EM), the Brazilian section of the Trotskyist International Marxist Tendency. Marxist Left released a statement saying that "for the revolutionaries, there is no more room for the construction of socialist ideas within PT".

> You mean like

I mean like when they walked all over the constitution by censoring Bolsonaro supporters left and right. Literal unabashed unconstitutional censorship, openly biased against Bolsonaro at that.

There's plenty wrong with the literal concentration camp they set up in Brasília too. People imprisoned without any charges. Only recently did they vote to turn some of them into actual defendants. Not to mention the embarrassing videos that leaked recently that imply that whole "terrorist" thing was a false flag operation. Meanwhile they released PCC drug traffickers involved in the torture and assassination attempt against the Lava Jato judge and his family. It's comical.

> I'd really like to know what communists they were talking about

PT, obviously. The fact Lula is a communist is news? It's becoming a pain to have to constantly remind people of this. There's videos of him literally saying his objective is to install socialism in Brazil. Decades old videos. I have no reason to doubt the man's own words and his actions certainly don't leave any room for doubt. Whether the other communists think he's a real communist... Who cares, really?

> There's plenty wrong with the literal concentration camp they set up in Brasília too. People imprisoned without any charges. Only recently did they vote to turn some of them into actual defendants.

Welcome to the life of anyone accused of any charge in Brazil. The Criminal Process Code (Código de Processo Penal) allows for up to 81 days of jail without a charge. After that time ends they can just release you without a charge and you can't do anything about it.

If at any time before that period ends, if the prosecutor's office has started any form of case you can still be held for at least more 102 days before your trial, up to 180 if anything that delays any part of the process happens.

This happens every single day in this country to many persons and the media is only making a fuss because now it happened to a bunch of rich white people with a charge that doesn't allow for bail / habeas corpus. I am totally in favor of changing it, but I don't think my reasons are the same as yours, sadly.

> There's videos of him literally saying his objective is to install socialism in Brazil.

Lula is just like Joe Biden. Makes for nice strawman arguments, but anyone who stops and thinks on what they can realistically accomplish will see they're more of the same, except with a rainbow flag coating.

Words are empty without action, and Congress is set to stop any action; Just like for the previous 10 years PT was in power, where they at best passed a few stopgap measures that did nothing to stop the long term destruction of the middle class that started in the 80s, further throwing Brazil into inequality.

> I am totally in favor of changing it, but I don't think my reasons are the same as yours, sadly.

Good, then we are in agreement. I don't know what you think my reasons are but the result is the same in the end.

> anyone who stops and thinks on what they can realistically accomplish

I'd rather not take my chances with a known communist in power. In 2009-2010 he faced heavy resistance when he tried to push socialistic stuff. Now he basically owns the supreme court and the same media that resisted him back then is backing everything he does. Only chance this country has is to somehow get rid of him and put the vice president in charge. They needed him to get Bolsonaro out but now he's overstayed his welcome.

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