Can you link to a source of the banned hardware products?
Also, you are making a bad faith argument. The topic was in "product". You specifically tried to gate it to "hardware". China is the producer of most hardware in the world. They aren't going to ban stuff that was made by them. Software product on the other hand, aren't really their forte until recently and that they banned plenty.
At least not any that I'm aware of?
The context in this specific part is about the retaliations between countries. It has expanded beyond just one company when you start talking about entire economies fighting each other.
Besides, I already gave you the US hardware that China banned.
As far as I can tell news reports suggest their not invited to bid on government and SoE contracts, but their China revenue is far from zero so they obviously have not been banned from consumer or regular business sales.
Considering that cisco.cn works, is publicily accessible, recently updated, and lists some products, this 'ban' seems impossible to believe: https://www.cisco.com/site/cn/zh/index.html
Where did you source this information?
I tried giving them benefits of the doubt before, it never went anywhere. Maybe here it is different. I guess I can try again.
Anyone can also check my account's been around since 2014 and links to my personal blog, twitter, etc.
So it's clear to most readers what the relative likelihood of attempted trolling is.
I will take the charitable view that there's real person behind the account who didn't bother to check before writing.
You are also free to respond to the other comment I made to your post and not jumping to another one. These remarks are not specifically for you. Go take a look at the account I replied to above yours to see why I said that.
Basically every big name software maker in the US has faced or is under a Chinese ban by now.
Such as the ban on export of cryptography software.
What was attention grabbing in the last few years with Huawei was that physical tangible consumer products you could hold in your hands were banned.
The cryptography export restriction was a US initiative with obvious reasons.
The software bans I am talking about are from the Chinese side. For example China's bans on sites like google.
What Chinese consumer hardware manufacturers did recently (or rather, finally got noticed doing recently) is making their devices into spying toeholds in other countries. Even if nothing of interest to the Chinese takes place on your 17 year old daughter's phone, it's still on your home LAN exposed to the potential large attack surface area of Mom's work devices.
Or even worse, imagine a Chinese government ear permanently installed in the middle of our 5g infrastructure.
The ideology of the US government does not align with that of the Chinese government. Hasn't for a very long time. The only surprising thing about this whole situation is how long the US went along with Chinese shenanigans. I would have slammed the door on China over 20 years ago.
Restricting hardware technology devices is a much newer phenomena.
Perhaps the closest tech analogues with a longer history would be how CNC milling machines are controlled, which has been the case since the 90s too.
These aren't computers where you can just run your own stuff (hopefully). These are phones with embedded firmware and an OS that almost no consumer will change. We can call it hardware but it's clearly a software delivery vector instead.
This also applies to modern CNC milling machines. But I don't think anyone would consider them as such.