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Saying slurs doesn't mean you believe in a particular ideology. He may have just been saying them to be edgy (unless there is further evidence I have missed).

I would say Popehat's law of goats applies: even if you say you're only fucking goats ironically, you're still a goatfucker.

This doesn't make any sense in actually real humans. Of course you can make edgy jokes you don't believe. This is clear to everyone in society except a rotating cast of puritans, where a decade+ ago they fundamentalist christians, now they are fundamentalist progressives.

> you can make edgy jokes you don't believe

Sure, but that does not require everyone else to believe your "I'm just being edgy" explanation. It's reasonable to take you at face value.

Haha, thank you for this -- I was uninitiated to the saying.

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands.

Antisemitism is not exclusive to Nazism at all. This is a news article. They don't just write things for no reason. They wrote "Antisemitic slurs" because they saw Antisemitic slurs.

Perhaps you meant to reply to a different comment. I was responding to the previous commenter's apparent attempt to explain-away antisemitic slurs as mere "be[ing] edgy" rather than being indicative of antisemitic belief, not trying to specifically nail down this alleged leaker's specific political affiliations.

You must not have spent a lot of time online in spaces with edgy teenagers. It truly is just about being edgy a lot of the time.

> It truly is just about being edgy a lot of the time.

I literally don't care.

If they want me to stop thinking that they're racists/nazis/fascists they can stop saying racist/nazi/fascist shit.

Not my problem to give them any consideration. They can stop any time they want.

Of course they don't write things for no reason, it's just that the reason may be something other than it's the truth.

Take the Russian collusion hoax for example....

Teenage edgelord logic isn't panning out, it doesnt matter much to me anymore if you mean it, are being ironic, or whatever bit of plausible deniability they hide behind. Its making the world an actively worse place whether they believe the things they say or not.

If you can't judge someone by their actions, what can you judge them on?

Their words, apparently

Words precede actions.

You must not listen to politicians.

I've been to several county council meetings as well as committee meetings for different interest groups in my locale. I know it looks like they don't get anything done but it's actually REALLY complicated because literally everyone is a stakeholder. The councilors that I've seen are not bad people and they don't try to lie.

You're painting with a really broad brush if you think all politicians do nothing.

Their elected representatives

>>...doesn't mean you believe in a particular ideology

It sure as hell means that you more than tolerate that "ideology", and are happy to enable and encourage abuse and worse of the targets.

IOW, just because you claim to be doing something "just for the lulz" or "to be edgy", does not get you out of being rigltly judged to be, at best, an asshat

asshat sure, I think everyone has been there. Neo-nazi? no.

Depends what the anti-semitism was. If he shouted "Free Palestine" or joined BDS I doubt he would be called a nazi.

Commenting on the influence of money in politics also qualifies these days.

Yes! Or "I'm not a fan of globalism."

Why does everything require framing?

News should tell the events and leave it at that.

Framing serves only to politicize.

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