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State affiliated media indicates state run media... i.e. propaganda for the State. NPR is in no way propaganda for the State. It's probably the furthest a media outlet could be from such a thing. This as an example of people putting their own political ideologies above all else and labeling the things that don't necessarily support them as propaganda. It's wrong and short sighted.

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Do you have any examples of them bucking the DNC establishment? I’ve never seen one. AFAICT state propaganda is exactly what they are.

Are you genuinely asking for examples, or are you just declaring your opinion in bad faith?

NPR reports on DNC mishaps and criminals all the time:

- https://www.npr.org/2017/11/16/564593737/sen-al-franken-accu...

- https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/12/505309059...

- https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/19/529119721...

- https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/04/568336597...

- https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/02/20/172480780...

I don't have a strong view on this yet, but I think some links that are less than 5 years old would make your argument more compelling.

There haven't been criminal convictions of federal democratic politicians in the last 5 years to report on.

Also, it's moving the goal posts.

GP asked for literally any critical reporting. You missed the goal posts, they didn’t move.

GP can provide non-NPR examples over the last five years maybe and cross-corelate with any NPR coverage to prove their point? I disagree, this is moving goalposts.

GP asked for critical articles and received them. Changing the requirements to be for the last five years is moving the goalposts, by way of a no-true-scotsman.

Agree, if there are not even 5 solid examples from the last 5 years, that's pretty suggestive.

State propaganda and party propaganda are the same thing in some countries, but fortunately not in the US.

Take it as you will, but the example they give is:

> For example, NPR joined with other media organizations to press the Obama administration for access to closed hearings involving detainees held by U.S. authorities at Guantanamo Bay

NPR are totally propaganda for the State, 100%, without reservation. (I used to be a regular listener, back when they were tolerable)

One would've expected a much larger shift in reporting with changing governments if that were true.

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