But the tesla still pulls 280kw+, which is in fact more than a house
We haven’t even touched on evacuations and how many people will be killed because they’re unable to charge their EV. People are supposed to go wait in like to charge their car for 30+ minutes? Have you seen the lines at gas stations during evacuations? How long do you think they’ll get when refueling takes 10 times longer?
The other aspect is that electric cars gain range in stop and go traffic and gasoline cars lose range. If there's a traffic jam and speeds average 20km/hr I can probably get 500km of range out of the EV. OTOH an ICE car loses range in stop and go traffic. I might be lucky to get 50km on an eighth of a tank in my gas car in stop and go traffic.
I’m guessing that since you’re using km instead of mi you’re outside the US. Perhaps your experiences won’t translate over here? The US tends to be larger than most countries so the distance traveled to evacuate is longer.
We need to slow down and research newer technologies. A german company can create 1600 liters of carbon neutral fuel using 1 MW of power. This fuel can run on existing engines. Those 1600 liters can fill 40 average sized cars. Yet that same megawatt can only charge 3.7 ish Teslas.
Are you also aware that this is the second time EVs have been tried? They lost out to gasoline for all these same reasons.
The only place I can think of in the US where you would need to drive more than 320 miles to get out of a disaster area is Miami. Everywhere else if there's a hurricane then you travel at right angles to its path. In Miami there's only one direction you can go.
There’s other places, like leaving CA, WA, and OR now and the tornadoes in the middle.
Average people don’t charge their car every night. Even if they did, what’s the storage ratio for liquid vs electric fuels? This directly translates into how much you can have on hand in an emergency.
You’ve ignored every issue stating “it’s not a problem for me” yet I’m guessing you’ve never been in this situation living in Canada. Maybe think outside the anecdotes and realize you’ve not experienced every situation in life.
Liquid fuels does not mean gasoline. Stop thinking this way.
Many gas stations were down because of loss of power and lines at the working stations were an hour long. But our friend had power, so we just plugged into 115V at their house overnight.
I know dozens of people with electric cars. Every single one of them has a plugin at their home, and every one of them plugs it in over night. A couple of them plug into a regular 115v outlet overnight rather than a faster charger, but everybody plugs in every night. Why would you give up one of the main advantages of EV's to save yourself the two seconds of effort it takes to plug the car in?
And again, why are you so enamored with EVs? There are other options that actually have a chance at mass adoption.
I add 320 miles of range to my EV for $8. A gallon of synthetic fuel is projected to cost $25/gallon once it hits mass production. Hydrogen is completely non-viable for emergency situations. What other options are you thinking of?
Which one? I’m guessing you just did research on this and just learned they existed? One of them costs $80/liter now, but said they can get it down to $6/liter through scaling.
> Hydrogen is completely non-viable for emergency situations.
Why? propane is shipped in, you don’t believe getting compressed gas in an emergency is possible?
Again, do you have a financial interest in EVs? Or you just trying to win this argument? I’ve never met someone so in love with electric cars. I can certainly understand the desire to get rid of gasoline, but to force people into electric when there’s tons of problems that people see means you won’t get the adoption you’re looking for.
You know there’s even another issue with EV I haven’t brought up yet. Every time you charge it, you lose a little range. This isn’t true with a liquid fueled vehicle in that the fuel tank gets a little smaller after every refuel.
> Which one? I’m guessing you just did research on this and just learned they existed? One of them costs $80/liter now, but said they can get it down to $6/liter through scaling.
You do realize there's only a 20% difference between $6/l and $25/g? IOW, they're basically the same price.
> Why? propane is shipped in, you don’t believe getting compressed gas in an emergency is possible?
Propane is shipped as a liquid with a high volumetric energy density. Hydrogen is shipped as a gas with a very low volumetric energy density. You'd need a lot of tanks of hydrogen to replace a single tank of propane.
Hydrogen needs to be regularly recompressed, requiring a lot of electricity. It's then further compressed before fueling a car, meaning that the hydrogen fuelling stations in California can only fuel 3 cars per hour.
Hydrogen leaks like crazy. NASA delayed the Artemis I mission by 3 months due to hydrogen leaks. If NASA can't do it...
> Every time you charge it, you lose a little range. This isn’t true with a liquid fueled vehicle in that the fuel tank gets a little smaller after every refuel.
The fuel efficiency of a gas car gets worse over time, so the same effect happens to them too.
If they can do that, they've broken the laws of physics. A litre of fuel contains 9kWh of energy. 100% efficient synthesis would result in 111 litres of fuel.
If you have not been in this scenario, you shouldn’t comment on what your opinion is.