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Comment by NelsonMinar | Hacker News Reader

It's so frustrating this discussion took five years.

I'd be grateful for an overview of the bug. I don't think I've seen it on my two systems but I can't be confident.

Five years is nothing for MS. You should see how long the bug in File Explorer has been there, where after navigating to a folder and pressing the down arrow, the second item is selected instead of the first. And it's one of those things that, even though I'm aware of it, it still always catches me causing extra keystrokes. It's like they're trying to force me to use the mouse for some reason.

That one I can almost agree with the reasoning for. The first item is selected by default but also by default you have to intentionally trigger a keyboard navigation for it to go into that mode since most don't intend to do that when hitting enter on a freshly loaded directory. As evidence of this behavior instead of hitting a directional key to change the selection whacking space should activate the highlight on the first item and then another navigation action is needed to actually do anything.

I think it'd be more convenient (for me as a keyboard centric user at least) if it were done differently but I don't think it's actually a bug as much as an intentional decision at the cost of keyboard user. This is unlike the Defender issue where it's of no purpose to be significantly slower than it needed to be.

Wanted to chime in with this. Agreed, it's not a bug. Just a UX decision that was made to prevent people from hitting Enter over and over and constantly launching/navigating stuff.

I often accidentally rename files in macOS Finder (hitting Enter activates rename).

That doesn't particularly sound like a bug. There may be varying opinions about whether it's good or not, but it kind of almost makes sense to me.

I think you can press Space to select the first item.

Windows Update and Windows Defender are notorious piles of shit that eat up huge amounts of CPU for seemingly no reason.

The problem is that there is zero incentive to get them right. Nobody is going to get promoted because they use 10% less CPU. Nobody is losing their bonus because 10% of all computers melt down. etc.

This bug would suggest that ETW is actually the giant pile of shit.

Which, in my experience, isn't far from the truth.

Other people think so too: https://caseymuratori.com/blog_0025

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