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I don't want to say much more beyond this, but I don't think that ideal is the standard behavior for either sex. The common person wants someone better than them and they're not entitled to it.
Men are famous for hitting on women. Men are even more famous for doing this behind screens, like thru DMs or Tinder.
Women WILL be pursued by every man that wants them. Then, the women already has loads of guys who aren't at the top echelon of attractiveness, so naturally when THEY initiate, it's to people who wouldn't initiate with them.
It's literally the same reason you could easily see dudes trying to swipe on women better than them: people want to date someone "out of their league"
I think this movement will collapse and people will return to traditions/religion. Others part of society that don’t will self extinguish as is already apparent in the birth rate and divorce rate.
I appreciate your analysis and projection without filters. We have to see clearly what is coming to us.
That will probably take a long time, as the "part of society that ... will self extinguish" will parasitically attach itself to the parts that don't (e.g. through compulsory education and mass media), dragging everything down in the process.
Luckily, this may be a convenient way to dispose of all the excess labor that capital will no longer will need once it's been made obsolete by AI and automation.
I don't think the reduction in birth rate has anything to do with religion and a conservative religious society sounds like a nightmare to me personally.
For me the reason for not having kids is simply that life is already expensive enough even with a double income, and life is much more fulfilling without the responsibility of having to raise kids. I've seen so much of the world that I wouldn't have if I'd be rushing between work, school and judo clubs.
I think it's a really good thing that people no longer have to have kids for economic / pension reasons (or lack of decent contraception) but just have them if they really want to. Personally I don't and I don't think I'd be a good father so it's better not to have them.
I think: - We live in the most abundant and easy time ever in the history of mankind. - The news, media and education have completely demoralised people, we are either victim or oppressor, no longer the hero of our lives - Our religious traditions was the backbone of our society and sanity, as we cast it away everything break down.
Ah yes, the old, life is so fulfilling when I'm a constant tourist, and also, climate change is bad but seeing a lot of the world is good.
This kind of moral panic has galvanized conservatives ever since urbanization, industrialization, and first-wave feminism in the latter half of the nineteenth century. Its impressive how everyone sounding this alarm seems to suffer from (s)elective amnesia, championing the good ol' days without admitting that doing so is more a political posture than a historical one.
Personally, I was an atheist scientific that rejected religion for most of my life. Recently to my great surprise I find out that the wisdom I was seeking was there all along.
At the same time, I don’t want to believe in fairy tales and the bearded magician in the sky, but there is a deeper symbolic meaning hiding behind the stories for those ready to dig deeper.
It used to be the boys who simped over the daughters. After the Anakin-esque Marian dramas ended, the Fathers started to simp.
The real problem is the complete destruction of the image of women. You stay on porn for some time and you will forget that modesty and imagination ever existed.
Porn also encourages a kind of erotic symbolism divorced from a real human. Normal erotic symbolism focuses on the hair, the smell, ect of a real loved woman. Engaging in the unnatural, abnormal symbolism, ensures that man's desire will be alone, never to find 'grounding' on a real person. (Havelock ellis mentions this idea).
Porn gives back almost no feedback except for sight and sound. The men who become accustomed to this, are satsified with a weak feminine response. It's not wise to capture weak women, a man is better pleased going for the strong feminine response.
Porn is here to stay, sure. But engaging with it is illogical.
Look inward
I'm thinking that sex bots/devices, maybe linked with VR will be another huge disruption
This post is like someone who has a crap product claiming there is a "market failure" preventing sales. Women can smell misogyny, trumpism, etc. a mile away. Your product sucks. That's why nobody is buying.
This is also why Jordan Peterson is no help. He just makes men think they don't have to abandon odious beliefs if they vacuum the floor and get out in sunlight occasionally. Actually, it's the other way around: Women will tolerate a slob if they are nice. Women will tolerate more than you can imagine.