> If a lot of people have to die in order to eventually get us cycling lanes, so be it

> The problem here is that if people stop biking until it becomes safer, then city planners and elected officials will say "why do we need to spend millions to install biking infrastructure (and disrupt car infrastructure), nobody is out biking!"

> it will just cause the cyclists to remove themselves from traffic after which there is even less of a reason to do something about it

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