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I wouldn’t say no interest

> Dugin proposes that Finland be combined together with the Karelian Autonomous Republic of the Russian Federation into a single ethnoterritorial formation "with maximal cultural autonomy, but with strategic integration into the Eurasian bloc.” The northern regions of Finland, Dugin adds, should be excised and donated to Murmansk oblast'

-https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundatio...

The last part of this comment makes me realize you have no idea what the Finnish people want. Support for NATO went from 20% to 80% overnight on February 24th.

It is actually the exact opposite - the Finnish foreign policy establishment still had traces of Finlandization and “friendship and cooperation treaty” support that was shaken out by the general public.

That's some mental gymnastics.

In one sentence you say: muscovy has no interest in Finland and in the next: now Finland is threatened because they are in NATO. Because now muscovy is interested in them? Because something else?

There are no gymnastics - previously Finland and Russia had a diplomatic relationship.

Now if Russia has a conflict with one of the Baltic states, Finland is dragged into it.

Before a war between Lithuania and Russia would not involve Finland necessarily. Now Finland has pledged a war between Lithuania and Russia would involve Finland.

Not many mental gymnastics are needed - to a person who reaches the level of average intelligence any how.

And in what circumstances would Lithuania, a country with population of 2.8M, would be at war with Russia?

Under what circumstances would Finland be at war with Russia?

Lithuania is in NATO, so Russian conflict with any other NATO member drags Lithuania in.

Under what circumstances would Lithuania be at war with russia?

You cannot have a diplomatic relationship with a warmonger on a quest to restore the pre-1917 Russian empire - which Finland was a part of. Simple risk management. I suggest you tone down your smug tone of voice as clearly you have an incomplete view of the crisis

You conveniently omit the part where russia should not have a conflict with any of the states you mentioned.

You are just doing the genocidal russia crocodile tears: why can't I invade all the countries? Why everyone so mean that they gang up against me to protect each other?

The Winter War overlapped the 1940s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

> Russia could have rolled into Finland in 1945

Unlikely.

The Continuation War ran from 1941 through 1944. Soviet offensives in 1944 had essentially fully exhausted Finnish reserves; although Finland had managed to withstand the final one, they judged that they couldn't withstand one more. At that point, the Finns sued for peace (the peace terms being a slightly upgraded (for the Soviets) version of the treaty at the end of the Winter War).

So Russia almost certainly could have rolled into Finland in 1945.

The war hawks here think Russia fully mobilized, Russia which pushed the Wehrmacht back to Berlin in 1945 would have had more than minor difficulty taking over Finland in 1945. Perhaps they should read some history books, even US history books. The present may be cloudy, but the 1940s are less so - listen to their hawkish views, then consider how clear their view of history is.

Are you just straight up ignoring the Soviet-Finnish War?

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