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I would be somewhat willing to believe is Russia got rid of own Neonazi first. Which is not what happening, Russia has quite strong movement. It is also quite racist country, socially-culturally very much like nazi were - having a thing against gays, celebrating violence, all of that.

Same as in Ukraine. I'm Ukrainian and I lived there for 27 years. There are very little Ukrainians who don't have Russian relatives, because they all had sex between each other when USSR was still a thing. Many Ukrainians have one of their parents born in Russia. The culture in both countries is, more or less, the same.

By pretty much all statics and reports I have seen, Ukrainian neo-nazi problem if massively smaller then Russian one. Every single country has some neonazi ... and Russia has a lot of them and in fairly powerful positions.

Ukraine is not celebrating Stalin the way Russia is celebrating Stalin. Ukraine was not forcibly closing organizations studying communists crimes or Stalin crimes, Russia did.

Ukraine did not moved to make gay or trans materials illegal. Meanwhile, arrests and violence against gays in Russia became quite a serious thing in Russia. Practically, being gay is criminalized.

Ukraine did not started wars with countries around it the way Russia repeatedly did.

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I am not saying Ukraine is country of saints, but Russia is waay worst then that.

I will just say that when I lived in Ukraine, one of the "entertainments" for teens was to go find a group of gay people and get into a fight with them. Why? Just for fun. Russia has conservative values and their government works towards the propaganda of LGBT. They do not criminalize anyone for being a gay person. In fact, the same bill was proposed in Ukraine in 2011-12. While the bill did not pass, there are obvious cultural strings.

Let's be honest, the Azov Brigade should be condemned. But have they killed as many innocent civilians as the Russians over the last couple of years?

In a morally consistent world, both the Azovs and aggressive Russian regime should be countered, without any need for loss of innocent life. No one should use the existence of Azovs as an excuse to invade a country and murder innocent people.

“Denazification and demilitarization” is a hell of a euphemism for a nationalist military invasion of a neighboring country.

When Hitler invaded Poland, at least he didn’t claim he was actually fighting fascists and stopping Polish militarization. Today’s propaganda operates on levels of post-truth that Goebbels couldn’t have imagined.

>Denazification

Why does russia openly support Alexey Milchakov and it's openly nazi Rusich organization then? Maybe because it's a non point and invented reason? Putin loves nazis that support him.

Call it what you will, but what Russia is doing is trying to dissolve the Ukrainian identity through genocide and terrorism. I'm looking forward to the day when Ukraine gains back its stolen territories and pushes back Russia to their borders.

Russia has a different definition of Nazi.

To Russia, everyone who opposes them is a Nazi.

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