I see this argument a lot, oftentimes when people are trying to justify Chinese or Russian geopolitics. It’s something like “The US has done so many bad things. ____ is just doing the same thing.” Do you need someone to explain why comparisons like that are effectively useless?

It’s so dishonest and cheap I’m surprised to see it on HN and not on Reddit where it belongs, but here we are.

Mate, it’s democracy vs dictatorship. Russia didn’t invade the US, it invaded Ukraine. We would keep fighting even without US support. Freedom is non-negotiable.

This sort of thing makes perfect sense if you somehow manage to excise from your brain the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine and no one attacked Russia. You can discount everything the US and Russia says but that fact remains.

> The US has lied so many times it's not even funny. I assume Russia is lying as well. So I don't believe either side.

Is there a reason you created a HN account only to post this comment? Do you have a normal account that you didn't want to use?

If the US was actually fighting, they would be doing a lot more, like bombing Russia and sending the Navy to the Black Sea.

Not to mention Russia would then have to attack NATO territory, which they are carefully avoiding.

Neither the US or Russia is acting like the US is one of the sides.

The citizens of Donbas voted to be Ukranian.