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Can we compare the list of invasions and proxy wars started by America and Russia?

To justify the atrocities of the west is the height of hypocrisy.

Go ahead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia

Even since the fall of the USSR, Russia was not at war only in 1998 when their economy collapsed in the aftermath of Asian financial crisis and they simply couldn't afford it.

And the list doesn't include covert operations all around the world. For example, Latin America in the 20th century was greatly affected by them, Nicaragua in particular. Deep involvement in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is missing too.

After the second world war:

- War in Iraq. Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF; March 2003 - November 2011) ...

- War in Afghanistan. Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF; October, 2001 – December, 2014) ...

- Persian Gulf War (1991) ...

- Vietnam War (1962 - 1973) ...

- Korean War (1950 - 1953)

And this does not include things like coups in South America, or the fact they are surrounding Iran with missiles.

The USA is among the biggest war mongers of the world, they have killing millions since 1950, and everybody seems to just go "meh".

War in Afghanistan

War against China in Mongolia

War against Georgia

War against Finland

War against Insurgenst in eastern europe

War against Insurgents in ukraine

War against Checheyna

War in SouthKorea

War in Vietnam

Bloody beasts those empireus..

So what you are saying is that the US has a track record almost as long as what we consider one of the worst example of dictatorship in the world.

Stating you have only being 80% the serial killer that jack the ripper was is not really what I would strive for in life.

Im saying, that the structure of empire, does not give a damn about the values, it corrupts all, infiltrates all, from the highest king to the lowest peasant, the mindset starts to differ, the values start to differ, the processes start to devolve and dissolve, turning a democratic process of searching for compromise into a partisan war of conquest. The outcome is the same, but one struggles against it and the other embraces it to the fullest as the natural order of things.

The dosage makes a thing a poison, but this beast can not be dosaged, as the lack of self-control is in its very heart.

I agree, but that is not widely understood.

A lot of people still think the USA are angels liberating the world.

Well, compared to the alternatives that go around, dressed up in nice propaganda but horrific beneath.. they still kind of are even though heavily deformed by 70 years of empire.

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