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A frequent aspect of sexism is not believing women when they report their own experiences.

An other frequent aspect of sexism is the cultural view that men should look inwards when they have a bad experience, while women should look outwards when they have a bad experience.

In a bigger study by Pew, women “say a major reason for the gender wage gap is that employers treat women differently.”

I thought that if you adjust for pregancy/childcare, in many parts of the developed world women actually make more money than men on average.

In some cities in the US, young women without children make more money on average than young men without children. Across the entire population, young women without children still make less than young men without children. Controlling for experience and education also still shows a gap.

Across the entire population, women between 22 and 30 without children outearn their male counterparts. The gap is larger in some metros, but the inverted gender pay gap in this demographic is nation-wide: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2010/09/01/129581758/

> But there's one demographic where women outearn men: people who are single, childless, and between the ages of 22 and 30.

> Within that universe, U.S. women earn 8 percent more than men, on average, according to a new report from the research firm Reach Advisors.

> Women in this group out-earn men by an even larger margin in some metro areas -- 17 percent in New York, 11 percent in San Francisco, and a high of 21 percent in Atlanta, to name a few.

Across the entire population, young women without children make more than young men without children, and have for awhile. See e.g. [0]

This is driven by an elimination or reversal of the wage gap in many of the major metropolitan areas like NYC, LA, San Diego, Atlanta, DC ("some cities"). The study you're referring to [1] is for young men and women, regardless of whether they have children or not, for whom the gap is $0.93.

You might counter that this is due to women having higher post-secondary educational achievement levels. Which is to say, analyses of the pay gap need to be conditioned on other relevant demographic variables to say anything meaningful about discrimination.

Indeed. Once you control for all variables, for every $1 men make, women make $0.99 [2].

[0] https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704421104575463...

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/03/28/young-women...

[2] https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-ga...

Yes, but this is a hate fact.

women say a lot of things

A frequent aspect of poor performers is putting their energy into building a victim identity over of their actual job responsibilities.

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