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What about crossover which is just a hatchback sedan with a higher lift?

There's an interesting point there. My wife looks at our RAV4 and says "it's an SUV"; I say "it's a crossover", Toyota markets it as a "compact crossover SUV"; it's based on the same TNGA-K platform as the Camry; is actually shorter than the Camry (but taller) and weights essentially the same.

No, it's not, it's a hatchback car with a higher lift. There's no such thing as a "hatchback sedan". A sedan (or "saloon" in the UK) is a car with 4 doors and a trunk (or "boot" in the UK) (which is an entirely separate compartment from the passenger compartment).

See #2 and #6

The current generation Toyota RAV4 has more rear legroom, and (if you trust cars.com's review on these matters) fits contemporary child-seats better, than a BMW 5-series sedan.

Packaging matters.

The Toyota RAV4 is a SUV

It's based on Toyotas Corolla platform where traditionally SUVs are based on a truck platform. Weight of a crossover is closer to a sedan than regular suv. Rav4 is 3500 pounds where a bronco is 4500.

>It's based on Toyotas Corolla platform where traditionally SUVs are based on a truck platform.

"Traditionally", but that's not the modern usage. SUVs haven't been built on truck platforms for many, many years now; that was the 90s.

"Traditionally", a "phone" is a device that plugs into the wall and has a rotary dial for placing calls using numerical codes. These days, a "phone" is a very different device.

The point is that a Toyota RAV4 (and anything else in the compact crossover segment) is, functionally speaking, much closer to a Corolla than it is to a Suburban.

You're getting 30 mpg (combined) vs. 33 mpg for a Corolla; curb weight is within a few hundred pounds; the RAV4 is actually shorter in length than the Corolla. It is basically a Corolla estate with a higher ride height and different body styling/packaging.

More relevantly to the original comparison: a RAV4 is shorter, lighter, and gets better gas mileage than a BMW 5-series, in addition to having more rear-passenger legroom and easier child-seat fitting.

Best selling suv right now is the bronco and it’s based on T6 platform which is a truck platform. There’s also Ford explorer , Chevy equinox and traverse, Toyota Highlander and 4runner, Jeep Cherokee and wrangler, Then you have all the highend suvs like rangerovers, gwagons, etc.

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