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Do people really have to say that jokes about war which inevitably lead to the death of many in order to have bigger and better phone batteries at a reduced cost is sickening?

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You can't fix the problem by not talking about it. It wasn't an unfortunate natural disaster.

You can't fix the problem, period, certainly not by talking about it. The internet offers catharsis, not praxis. Americans have no more ability to affect their government's imperial capitalist agenda than they do to command the tides, others outside of the US even less so.

I disagree. I think you are close to the truth, but Iraq war was not seen in a very negative light by US citizens, or people in EU for that matter. Which was what media pushed. But people can think on their own. Somebody in the thread may want to argue that the war was a good or necessary thing, somebody will say otherwise and maybe the first one will check Wikipedia, and learn new facts that may change his mind in the future. Bit idealistic, but if each person can make 2 people more educated, the we have an exponential function.

> but Iraq war was not seen in a very negative light by US citizens, or people in EU for that matter.

Millions of Americans protested the Iraq war[0]. Globally it resulted in the largest protests in the world at that time. It didn't matter.

Of course you're correct about the zeitgeist of the US at the time, the government, the media and the American right were pro-war and they controlled the narrative. And I have to concede in hindsight there have been times where popular collective action has been effective, just never against starting a war AFAIK. When the US decides it wants a war it seems like there's really nothing anyone can do about it.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

What? Only the most disgusting racists were "ok" with the invasion of Iraq, for the sole reason it made brown muslims people hurt

All polls closely prior to the attack on Iraq show 55-67% US public support.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United...

Not sure what made you think I was talking about how the US felt about it. They obviously loved it very much. As luck would have it, the US became net exporter just a few years after the conquest

A very large part of this is because of literally outright lies about how Iraq was connected to 9/11. The administration knew that this was the only way they could convince anybody.

The hardest part of my job is connecting Iraq to 9/11 - Bush

You're trying to portray people that joke about war as though they are trying to bring a thoughtful discussion. They aren't and you aren't being helpful by muddying the discussion by presenting them as such.

These are reddit quality comments that don't belong here.

I think the target of the jokes is the hypocrisy of the ghouls behind those wars, who insist they are about freedom and democracy. No one is laughing at the suffering of the victims.

Humor is one way of dealing with things we can't control, my guess is that most of those commenters would love to not go to wars every few years. We don't exactly have co from over what the government t does whether we like to believe it or not

> jokes about war

It's called history

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