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Maybe the premise of the proposition is faulty from the start. It will not end as it never started. It was always here and it always be as the Universe of his own name. What would be then after it's death?

And when after it's death, there is nothing, quantum fluctuations will bring something from nothing. We will be all back here...Furiously replying on parent comments on HN stories with a 14 Billion years delay...

"How could our universe suddenly appear out of nothingness?" - https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/16376/how-cou...

"Did the Big Bang happen at a point?" - https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/136860/did-the-b...

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Obligatory mention of Asimov's "Last Question"

https://astronomy.org/moravian/C00-Last%20Question.pdf

If you want a great narration of this by Leonard Nimoy: https://youtu.be/8XOtx4sa9k4

Also, "Last Contact" by Stephen Baxter, 2008 Hugo Nominee for best short story (around 4k words):

https://web.archive.org/web/20080725045740/http://www.solari...

my theory is that a "deja vu" occurs when you encounter an uncannily close return to something that happened innumerous times in the past

My infinite lives must be on average rather boring then lol. I usually get deja vu in the most mundane situations like going down a path of thinking while driving or telling (retelling?) a story when I’m out with friends.

on average; the heads and tails of the bell curve most likely approach infinite levels of adventure :)

I'd recommend reading the short story All the Myriad Ways by Niven ( https://archive.org/details/Galaxy_v27n03_1968-10/page/n31/m... ) and Anathem by Neal Stephenson (which is much longer than a short story).

Also on the subject, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortalit...

If the universe is infinitely large everything that can happen will happen, an infinite number of times.

Are quantum fluctuations "nothing"? Can "nothing" fluctuate? What is fluctuating?

"A Mathematical Proof That The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing" - https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/a-mathematical-pro....

"In each of these cases, they find a solution in which the bubble can expand exponentially and thereby reach a size in which a universe can form—a Big Bang."

So, it's contingent upon a "bubble" forming, which is not nothing but rather something. They have not claimed to prove how the universe formed spontaneously from a bubble, not nothing.

It's the discussion between physicists and philosophers from my second link. For philosophers the nothing can exist, but for physicists the whole quantum thing, makes the nothing of the philosophers a non reality...

I think the idea is that ‘something’ must exist by necessity. Sort of like how logical truths are eternal and have no beginning: the laws which make up matter appear to follow mathematical (logical) rules, so maybe matter in some sense is eternal as well.

Seems to me this would be the reality. Always been here, always will be here. Eventually the stars use all their fuel and the universe goes dark. Don't fret! The recycling bins of the universe are there. A giant black hole becomes large enough to keep growing and boom! Another big bang to reignite energy.

The ancients were right all along.

Power, here, failed the deep imagining: but already my desire and will were rolled, like a wheel that is turned, equally, by the Love that moves the Sun and the other stars.

- Paradiso, Canto XXXIII

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