> In the early morning of May 27, Powers set out to hike what he believed was the 17-mile Cabin Loop, which his guidebook described as an easy-to-moderate trail. [...]
> In her verdict, United States Magistrate Judge Camille D. Bibles disagreed [...] He wasn’t, she said, even on the right trail: Instead of the 17-mile, moderate Cabin Loop, he was hiking the 18.8-mile Taylor Cabin Loop, a full 50 miles away, which his guidebook rated as strenuous.
One of the worst wildfires in San Diego county history occured for this same reason. Decades later the landscape is still a blackened scar.
Instead of fire starting equipment, maybe he should have brought a GPS? Extra batteries? Solar charger? This is crimnal neglegence, nothing less.
This thread is also a poster child for the ineffective HN comments feature.
After some moron burns up the countryside, all the discussion here is about how different places have similar names?
Pathetic...
Liverpool Street Station is in London. Liverpool Lime Street is in Liverpool.
At the Secaucus station, the two Penn Stations are in opposite directions, and I am sure many end up going the wrong way and wasting an hour.
Something we learned out of all this was that each train company used to have their own station in each city, before things became consolidated, so it makes sense for there to be many stations for the Pennsylvania Railroad.
Source: me, wondering if I want the Bronx bound train or the Queens bound train
Turns out, before the Pennsylvania Railroad built the tunnels under the river , you had to take a ferry from New Jersey.
There's a Penn Station in Baltimore too. Making that mistake nowadays is less of a personal safety issue than it used to be, at least.
Concrete jungle where dreams are smothered
There’s nothing you can do
Because you’re in Newark
In any case, this reasoning shows a worrying lack of personal responsibility. Often ascribed to US. Do people seriously consider legal steps against a trail-book because names of trails are confusing? More general: do people actually win a court case because a route-app brought them somewhere "dangerous"?
Oh the American people are probably more independent than most and that comes with understanding personal responsibility.
The real issue is the lack of soft unwritten societal rules that exists in most other countries, so everything must be codified into law and if the rules are not specific enough, they are abused by everyone from corporations to everyday peeps who grew up under the opaque system.
Ironically when the laws are too specific, there are also loopholes to be abused.
At the end of the day, laws aren't the solution to every societal issue.
close, but i think it's the other way around. Those soft rules do exist, but they're regionally scoped to about the size of the median european country. We just have several dozen such regions.
The "codify everything" impulse can arise from things like interstate/inter-region commerce alone.
There have been cases of GPS directions being wrong and people suing. I think some of the Cades have been successful depending on the circumstances. Wasn't there one in Australia that took someone down a wrong deserted road or something?
They heard wrong. Source: looked at my microwave.
What if I microwave my cat (she was wet, I wanted to dry her. The manual did not explicitly state I could not dry my cat in the oven), and then sue?
Sounds the upside risk is big: chance to win thousands (millions?) but what if I lose? Am I forced to pay thousands (millions?)? It sounds like you are saying the chances to lose are big.
Though, reading up on that, I believe it is "famous" in a my age group mostly, so it could be some younger hackers missed that reference. Sorry for that.
Do you think my answer was incorrect for a real world example?
Even if they started at the same place, it would be the hiker's responsibility to verify where he is and that he was on the intended trail, not just at the start, but as he progressed along it. If what you are seeing around you does not match up with what your map shows, go back to the last place you were certain.
If this guy's life was in danger - and, having been to Taylor's cabin myself, I can well believe it was, especially given how clueless he was - then he has bought the rest of his life for $300K, by abusing an infrastructure set up with considerable effort by people who are doing their best - and taking a risk - to act responsibly. He should be grateful for that and quit whining.
Though I do feel bad for the people who live on such streets, with how often their food delivery gets sent to the wrong place. Turns out delivery drivers aren't always the ones with the greatest attention to detail.
"No."
"I didn't think so."
Also Vanbrugh Castle as a house name within the same radius but, obviously, isn't on any of the aforementioned roads.
And when I am going hiking on a route I had not been on before, I take a map of the trail and use it, especially at a time of the year when one should expect temperatures exceeding 35°C.
If he had made his way to his intended hiking location, it is quite possible he would still have become lost, as the trail system there has many branches.
One of the worst wildfires in San Diego county history occured for this same reason. Decades later the landscape is still a blackened scar.
Instead of fire starting equipment, maybe he should have brought a GPS? Extra batteries? Solar charger? This is crimnal neglegence, nothing less.
This thread is also a poster child for the ineffective HN comments feature.
After some moron burns up the countryside, all the discussion here is about how different places have similar names?
Pathetic...
Is he an idiot? Sure. Do forests burn? Yeah. Just ban him from public lands and fine him.
Fire is a natural part of the landscape in the west. You should learn to appreciate it because our policy of putting out fires for aesthetic and logging reasons has made our whole landscape a powder keg.
If I get drunk, drive, and cause property damage, would you feel the same way?
People have a responsibility to not drive drunk and not to start forest fires. We can do a 5 whys activity but that doesn't negate the culpability of the individual.
Oh wait, he didn't bring a map.
Because that's how cosine similarity works.
I can't begin to estimate how many trail names might include the words "cabin" and/or "loop".
Just further indicates the level of incompetence and ill-preparedness here.