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We also use it every day.

That said, I feel like I know a lot of devs who think there are a lot of things that are unusable (or the equivalent). Everything from Visual Studio to the display on their iPhone to modern cinema and science fiction in general to In-and-Out burgers. As a general rule, I discount their take on pretty much anything.

Is Teams great? No. Its better than what I used before it though, and its probably gotten better faster than just about any other piece of software I've used. I struggle to generate any outrage at all about it one way or another.

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What on earth have you used before?! I struggle to think of anything worse than Teams, maybe Amazon chime but pretty much everything I've used over the years is a good step up from Teams.

Skype for business? Teams is way better than that.

I mean its not great but I feel like on Windows at least (idk about Mac or Linux) it's just distinctly average.

The only thing about teams that drove me crazy in the years of having to suffer it its search function and how the mobile app puts the logout action into settings (I lost my mind once trying to find it).

Nah skype for business was the bomb. It worked exactly like 2005 MSN messenger, was simple, efficient, and screen sharing and video calling was hard so people wouldn't start a damn video call or ask me to join a video call for things that should be a damn email.

Except that keeping track of chats was as much of a pain as it is in teams. Things that were absolutely not a problem in MSN messenger in 2004

Every single chat I had in skype for business caused a transcript to be emailed to me.

Like I want more emails. Why did Skype start a blank chat every time I talked to someone? Close the chat? Bam, go find that transcript

We used Webex, LogMeIn, GoToMeeting, and Zoom.

I have yet to have a major complaint about Teams. It works, I have my meeting and I close it. I don't know what some of you want in a video conferencing app.

> It works, I have my meeting and I close it.

I wish that was true. Good for you. Not good for people expected to be "online" in it for longer.

> Is Teams great? No. Its better than what I used before it though

dare I ask what you used before?

We went from HipChat to Teams and Teams is much better.

Yeah, we also went HipChat + Skype -> Teams, and once one gets used to it, it's fine (and certainly better than XMPP hell). Teams' search was always problematic, but for our organizational use case (moderately long-lived chat rooms for the duration or sales or projects, with lots of conference calls), it was actually more usable than Slack or Zoom. Conversely, Slack seems much more effective for coordinating in-house tech teams handling ephemeral discussions. Horses for courses and all that.

Did you use skype ?

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