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What's the problem with "4 yr old laptops"? My colleagues and I use Teams on computers 1-5 years old and haven't heard about any issues.

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"4 year old laptop" can mean anything from "8 cores, 64 GB RAM, dedicated GPU" to "720p display, 4GB RAM, dual-core". If Github for whatever reason punished its employees with the latter, well. Teams is not the world's most optimized Electron app.

720p, 4GB in 2019?

Yes. Most of the laptops at my current jobs were 720p till 2023. I work for a huge enterprise (over 5k employees).

Damn, that sucks. What model are they?

Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. all offer current-gen "business" notebooks with 720p or 768p screens, to placate the penny pinching soulless big corporations.

Dell Latitude, various models. Even today some Latitude models are 1366X768

> Teams on computers 1-5 years old and haven't heard about any issues.

My 2019 Intel MacBook would sound like a jet engine taking off when opening IntelliJ. Apple’s M2? Doesn’t even get hot doing a full index and battery lasts 4-5x as long.

The quality of life using an Apple Silicone laptop while traveling is so much better. Frankly, it’s an embarrassment for Intel.

Silicone is a polymer of siloxane which makes rubber-like substance such as silicone oil, silicone grease, or silicone caulk.

Silicon is an element often used in semiconductor manufacturing.

Neither Apple or Intel manufacture silicone in any major quantities.

I think it's a dig at how resource hungry Teams is.

Maybe that works well on Windows machines, on the Mac at least on the Intel-era some year-old Macs MS Teams is one of the most horrible, buggy, resource hungry, non-working app that one could imagine.

It's so bad it makes Slack look lightweight. Which is a real accomplishment.

Actually true and a good way to put it

the best way to use Slack on any desktop/computer OS is: 1) login to Slack in a chrome browser tab and then --> Create Shortcut 2) uninstall Slack app

As soon as the M1 dropped, Apple just stopped giving a shit about Intel Macs. The whole OS is slow, janky, and appears to have driver bugs on Intel.

Teams was horrible before that. What you consider is not a reason for Teams being utterly crap on at least the Intel Macs - which I was talking of only as I have no Apple Silicon Mac to compare to.

it's a reference to the previous para:

> Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years.

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