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> Because it validates your decision to pay 1000$ for a phone

The $399 iPhone SE from 2016 got six years of OS updates and just got another security update last month.

Edit: miss remembered test result.

> And one of the worst "performance for buck" scores in recent MKBHD camera blind test.

1. The test covered the 2022 iPhoneSE, not the 2016 version that your parent was talking about.

2. The iPhone SE 3 had the 3rd highest "votes per dollar"[1].

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1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdjmGimh04&t=470s

Indeed I remembered that wrongly. My bad.

For people with the means to afford it, iOS devices are superior in most ways: from performance to utility to lifetime. They lack features a rounding-error fraction of users care about, like side-loading for example.

Performance? Maybe. Lifetime? Maybe. Utility? No. The extra restrictions Apple packs on cuts utility. No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. Certainly never got some of the weird but useful things Android phones have had like being a universal remote. Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more.

One could make the argument that Apple has to have something that Android doesn't... a faster cpu?

This doesn't mean that Android needs to have the fastest cpu, because they can do more with the resources they have better then Apple does.

Wireless charging android phone to android phone, done. Wireless charging your headphone case from your Android phone, done.

Want to plug in a hard drive, ssd, ide, cd-rom, 3.5inchers, printer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, done, done, done, it all gets done on android.

You see I care more about functionality/utility them cpu speed.

And as others have pointed out battery life is still the most critical priority....because who cares how fast your frame rates are if you can only play for 15min before running the battery dead...

Next 5yrs the battery technology for these handheld devices will be insane. Imagine not charging your phone for a week....

Yes, you fit in the “rounding error” group of users. Nobody (almost) cares about any of the features you noted. I’m not talking technology-ignorant people, either: the vast majority of phone users, including sophisticated users, use it for basic app functionality and texting. They aren’t hooking up hard drives or keyboards and don’t even want to.

>Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more.

More but worse. I don't want it to be a really bad space heater or a really bad flood light, I want it doing a few things really well.

>No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc.

The number of people that care about this stuff is a rounding error. I can't even remember the last time I saw a USB drive let alone needed to get something off of it on my phone.

Nobody cares about better app and notification management? Some of these are niche but those two things make Android better at being a smartphone than the iPhone. You might not care about these things but some people do. Rounding errors start to add up when there's lots of them.

Apple's notification management is better than what I remember from my last Android phone (years ago, a Pixel, latest version at the time, I think in 2017 or 2018). Apple's app management is definitely mixed, but I find it quite easy to use as-is, certainly not deficient enough to be a deal-breaker. And most people--by far--don't care much about either item.

Android lets you easily disable notifications for some features of apps in settings. Apple is all or nothing and you have to hope that the app dev was kind enough to put granular notification settings in the app. It's also just better at stuff like in-notfication replies.

"Nobody" wants to spend 20 minutes configuring at that granularity: apple's is more than sufficient for 99.9999% of all use cases. All the supposedly superior Android features in this entire thread are things only a minute fraction of tinkerers actually care about.

Yes, everything you don't care about is some minute fraction of tinkerers. I bet you thought only some minute fraction of tinkerers wanted copy and paste, a notification shade, widgets, always on display etc.

This comment added zero value to the conversation.

The only tech geeks I've known who gave a shit about on-paper specs and benchmarks for phones and were always buying anything faster than what they already had just because it's faster, have been Android fans.

Having a rough day bub?

A brand new iPhone can be had for a little as $429 directly from Apple. There's a whole range of iPhones that aren't the Pro line.

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