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“What has Google released since 2013[0]? Stadia?”

- GCP Suite (a full integrated and consistent suit, answering so many things)

- Google Workspace (trust me when you get to know everything that is possible you will be amazed)

- Tensorflow and other Machine Learning applications

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Google Workspaces originally released in 2006 (inc. Sheets, Docs, Drive was 2012, Calendar was 2009, etc), it was rebranded "G Suite" in 2016 then rebranded "Google Workspaces" in 2020. Rebranding an existing product isn't innovation.

Google Cloud is a worse clone of AWS, is that innovative? Redmond-style photocopying?

I'll give you TensorFlow, but we're talking about that being their death knell, so congratulations about signing their own death-warrant?

> Google Cloud is a worse clone of AWS

This certainly hasn’t been my experience. I’ve found GCP products to be much better/easier to deal with than their AWS counterparts.

Agreed. I can actually just figure out how to do simple things in GCP console by clicking around the UI, including setting up networks, doing IAM, and getting stuff talking to each other, most of it without ever leaving the web browser or even peeking at documentation. Good luck doing that with AWS.

Worse in the aspect of market dominance.

GCP is definitely much better if not best cloud offering.

But it’s not innovative.

It was when it came out in the form of App Engine. It was when it released managed Kubernetes and then managed containers within Kubernetes (Cloud Run using Knative behind the scenes).

Kubernetes, BigQuery, Tensorflow, custom VM shapes etc would beg to disagree.

PyTorch has 3-5x the use of TensorFlow in academia.

Also: - Kubernetes has been incredibly transformative and adopted by all other cloud providers - Golang - the language of choice for a lot of cloud native tools - Flutter - it may not be the incumbent choice but it makes cross platform development a breeze - Google Photos - no other photo platform comes close to it

Apple photos now offers full user controlled encryption. Google Photos has no such protections and never will. Apple may not be saints, but the fact is there’s one photo service where the photos remain yours, and another where a photo of your kid can get your entire digital life nuked with zero recourse.

Go is from 2009, so well before 2013. Google photos was launched 4 years after Apple photos on iCloud, so I wouldn’t call it innovative.

Perhaps the original author should have specified profit generating products. Go, Kubernetes, Tensorflow are all open source and free. Google Photos makes a profit?

That just expands on the parent's point. Let us divide the number of teams Google has globally by the three fronts you mention.

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