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Who broke the Budapest memorandum? Russia was all alone in that. It's impossible to make an agreement with Russia, as a state actor or not, while being sure that Russia won't break it the second it is beneficial for them. Claiming the contrary is pure ideology.

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> It's impossible to make an agreement with Russia

Other people have mentioned it bellow me, but see what Merkel herself ("accused" of being on Putin's side, funnily enough) had to say about the Minsk accords.

Others has also cleared up the lies and misquotes. Why do you jump directly to tangent lies, instead of dealing with the main argument - that we are where we are because of Russia not upholding its promises?

It seems to me that neither side was upholding its promises. There are no angels here.

Well in any non-delusional interpretation of the events Russia broke their promise of Ukrainian independence and security in 2014. Don't mention any terror bombings of Donetsk, as they have never taken place and civilians has not been dying in any numbers since '14 when Russia went into Ukraine. As documented by numerous ngos. Only Russia is in the wrong here. Full Stop. People like you are cheering on killings of civilians and colonialism.

Well, when one side continue breaking their promises, it makes it hard to keep your promises too! Also, the other side did not invade russia, did it?

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