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This is founded by co-founders of NextDNS. But why? How is it different?

For one, on NextDNS I can configure exactly what I want to block (i.e. enable arbitrary combinations of ad filter lists, whitelist domains etc.). This introduces complexity (IPv6 DNS addresses, binding your external IPv4 to a specific configuration etc.)

With DNS0 I just get an IPv4 address that blocks X, Y and Z.

So NextDNS is sort of the power user version of DNS0.

Because NextDNS is a for-profit company they probably can't get funding from the EU for these silly EU vanity projects so easily.

DNS is not a "vanity project", it's a massive issue in terms of internet governance. We've known this since the '90s, which is why the EU is starting its own service (that is not this one). I doubt this project got any EU funding, or is likely to ever get any EU money at all; in fact, it looks like a last-gasp attempt from a private DNS company to remain relevant.

DNS4EU is yet another EU vanity / pork barrel project. DNS resolvers are commercial failures as you point out and DNS4EU is going to do nothing to change that.

How is this a "silly EU vanity project"?

There is an EU fund for silly projects like Gaia-X which are mostly about vanity rather than actually producing anything useful. I am suggesting they've formed a non-profit to try and benefit from this fund.

Yeah I don't see what's silly about providing a resolver with the features being offered, no matter the "EU" branding or official project funding. Right off the bat I'm willing to bet these guys are more genuine and honest about privacy/integrity than e.g. Google.

There is nothing silly about the product specifically. It's useful. However they already built it: https://nextdns.io/

What I am calling silly is not dns0. It's the way the EU is funding technology projects.

> It's the way the EU is funding technology projects.

I personally think that's a good thing, to provide funding and opportunity for gratis service projects with less risk of deviating in the way things often do in commercial context where revenue is the top priority.

Gaia-X isn't EU funded, it was just endorsed by EU parliament members. It's actually funded by different entities in the manufacturing industries (like car manufacturers). EU funded projects have distinctive markers on their pages.

It is funded by France and Germany e.g. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung...

The EU Commission has a DNS project that they tendered to various private companies. They want the majority of EU internet through something they can directly regulate and control EU internet users.

DNS is a very cheap service to run so I wonder if the founders intended to get a first mover advantage and to be subsumed into the project

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