However I agree these alternative frameworks section took me out of the piece, because these do not really solve most of the issues. They _just_ maybe get around by not having a virtual dom. But many of them still do a lot of css-in-js, still need rendering on the server (but lack the tooling), and do not solve the dataflow. I definitely have aversion towards new syntaxes of html as well (in parts because i built similar framework myself 10 years ago and it's really gnarly down the line)