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I don't get it, are you insinuating that "the American right" don't like scientists, journalists, professors, librarians, and doctors? You may want to evaluate your echo chamber if you believe this personification of 150M people. I say that as a Canadian living in the US and is perpetually confused by what each side says about the other.

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Exactly as stated, verbatim: there is a movement within it.

That’s not the same as describing them as a monolithic group who all act that way.

Journalists: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/business/media/trump-medi...

Scientists: https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2023/01/23/woke-lancet...

Professors: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/just-how-liberal-are-c...

Librarians: https://nypost.com/2022/09/10/librarians-go-radical-as-new-w...

Doctors: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boston-childrens-hospit...

> are you insinuating that "the American right" don't like scientists, journalists, professors, librarians, and doctors?

I actually don't think this. I know conservatives, they will generally believe scientists who are studying black holes but when climate change gets brought up they accuse them of bias. Similarly they will seek out doctors for their condition but when a doctor treats a trans patient they will accuse them of bias. It's not a dislike, and not of individuals, it's more of a distrust of institutions.

There has been a dramatic decline in trust of institutions, regardless of political affiliation [1]. The medical system is at 38%, public schools at 28%, newspapers at 14%. These levels are so abysmally low that it's literally impossible for it to be partisan - it's global. The levels are lower than they've ever been, by far.

[1] - https://news.gallup.com/poll/394283/confidence-institutions-...

You're generalizing the loudest of the fringe to those 140M people followed by generalizing personal anecdotes to the same 140M. This is the same as trying to say that all Democrats support antifa.

I'm not generalizing across 140M people, I said there is a "movement among the American right". Saying "there is a movement among the left that believes ACAB" is probably true too, but we're talking about fact-checkers here not the criminal justice system.

The what you call "loudest of the fringe" has significant sway over the republican party one of their loonies was just appointed to the homeland security committee. A significant portion of the republican party still believes or at least gives statements that the 2020 election was stolen and even more republican refuse to denaunce them. If you continue voting for these guys you are part of the problem, some of them have openly supported literal Nazis.

As a general rule if anyone ever tells you that the other side is ultimate evil (jumping to "voting for these people means you're supporting Nazi supporters" is exactly that) then it's an automatic red flag that they've become completely blinded by partisanship.

As to who I'd personally vote for next election, I'm currently undecided as these things are highly nuanced. I have issues with both major parties in the US and time will still tell in which direction each develops before the next election. I don't take kindly to you trying to literally paint every single politician on the Republican side with a massive brush of "Nazi supporter". It's exactly for reasons like this that I feel it's important to continue to support them in some fashion to prevent the absolute nonsense that you're perpetuating here.

A couple of decades ago we had people wearing literal swastika arm bands goose stepping through jewish neighborhoods. We survived that perfectly fine. A lot of people seem to want to massively inflate how bad things actually are right now compared to history. Driving division in this country is one of the primary aims of foreign Russian and Chinese propaganda and one of those ways is through rabid partisanship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Not the whole of the American right, but certainly Trump's core support and then some. They are very anti-all of those things and vocally so.

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