Source: was a Ph.D. student who complained about being underpaid, now a professor who sees how expensive they actually are.
The first notion I would like to dispel is that we are looking for employees of any kind. To be clear, a Ph.D. is closer to an apprenticeship than it is to employment, so benchmarking it against employment leads to all kinds of wrong conclusions about the arrangement.
In fact, we are looking for students, which is to say that when admitted to a Ph.D., students lack the skills necessary to undertake the work, and the expectation is that they will be trained as a matter of course. How this differs from typical on-the-job training is that the training period can last years.
The flip side is that business has adopted the philosophy "fire fast", meaning that that if some employee isn't working out, it's best to just let them go rather than let the issue persist. With a student, the philosophy is reversed; a student who isn't working out should be mentored.
All this training and mentorship does not come cheap. For one, the facilities they use are expensive. For another, faculty time is expensive as well. Students don't appreciate this because the economics are hidden from them, and it often leads to perceptions that they are only paid the small fraction of their compensation that flows into their bank accounts. But to be clear, this training is in fact compensation to the student. It's not given to them at zero cost to the university. I can charge up to $300 per hour to give advice and training as part of my consultancy, but my students as part of my regular employment get carte balance access. They don't ever see an invoice from me, but that doesn't mean my time was spent with them out of the goodness of my heart. It certainly doesn't mean I'm exploiting them by not paying them market rate. If they want market rate, they should have marketable skills relevant to the position.
The slavery comparison falls apart for obvious reasons. The volunteer comparison also falls apart because volunteers act as such to give, whereas students start a Ph.D. to get something out of it. And they do, it's just not all money. It's not even mostly money, and I think this should be clear to anyone thinking of starting a Ph.D. at this point. So for a Ph.D. student to complain that they were paid a small amount compared to someone who was employed, while eliding the vast array of other compensation they got, and simultaneously ignoring all the privileges afforded to students that aren't to employees, that to me is missing the entire value of the degree.
Except you are not looking for students, you are looking for the top graduates in the field, and you are training them for a job that barely exists.
Ph.D. students are in fact students, and I'm training them in a discipline in which I am one of the few experts in the world, to the point where they are an additional world expert on that topic. That takes a lot of time.
> was a Ph.D. student who complained about being underpaid, now a professor who sees how expensive they actually are.
They both can be true! You can be paying through the nose just for a middleman fat cat to take a fat cut, leaving the Ph.D. student with very little power to receive an unlivable amount.
Yes, we all love to complain about paying overhead, the same way we all love to complain about paying taxes. "If only I didn't have to pay this chunk of money, imagine what more I could do for myself!"
And yet, we all know that it's not as simple as that. Yes, it's a shame that your advisor can't keep all his grant money and pay you 2-3x more. At the same time, the overhead money he pays is going to fund (among many other things) teaching assistantships, which will fund some other grad student whose advisor isn't as fortunate to have landed a lucrative grant. Or it will fund a new professor's startup package who is just starting out. Or it will fund startup research internal to the university. That same fund could support you in the future, if your funding runs dry; typical projects are funded for 4-5 years, whereas a Ph.D. can be longer (up to a decade even).
There are a million excellent uses for that money. Honestly this wouldn't be much of a discussion if the housing and healthcare markets were more sane; most of the stipend money is spent on rent anyway. My institution is able to subsidize housing for many grad students, but when a 2 bedroom apartment costs $3000/mo on the open market, it's true that it can be tough to be a grad student. Especially with a family.
But at the same time, those who seek to pursue a Ph.D. are often young and unencumbered. This can be a great option for many, as you are aware. I don't see the need to make it more like employment, when employment is already an option.
I agree with you! I believe a tax rate of 0% OR 100% is insane, and the right number is somewhere in the middle. Right now, paying 67-50% "taxes" to the university and then also paying ~30% in real taxes just seems unfair/inefficient/unjust.
inefficient - yes, probably. But I'm not sure that many universities' missions are related to efficiency. This of course makes it a bad profit maximizing organization, which is fine because it was never intended to be one. For instance, it might be more efficient for a university to cut all the under-enrolled programs and to only focus on STEM. But the mission statement of the university precludes that, so STEM is heavily taxed to support the philosophy department. It's not efficient, but I'm happy we have a philosophy department.
Also there's another degree of efficiency here, which is economies of scale. Overhead goes to pay for administration (the one HN loves to hate) which to a large degree increases my efficiency. For example, research overhead goes to fund the research office, which helps me get grants and stay compliant. They help me file for patents, and publish my work. Professors wouldn't be able to afford the staff at the research office with our individual grants, and even if we could we would be inefficiently duplicating the office in each of our individual labs. But by pooling our money (paying the overhead tax), we can afford a number of support staff who can help us all write better grants.
unjust - what is the just amount? The PI knows ahead of time all the taxes, and can request as much as they need from the funding organization to conduct the research. The only limit here is the total budget of the funding organization. If it's a public organization like the NSF, that budget is set by Congress, which is democratically elected. Your stipend is only limited due to the public's willingness to fund research. Since all of this follows the rule of law which has been democratically decided upon, I don't agree that the system is unjust.