The only reason they aren't just trying to charge for physical mail letter reviews is that that is too transparent, the public understands exactly how immoral that is. Once you add technology a lot of people's brains shut off because of the "complexity" they assume exists, particularly once the vendor starts with the buzzword vomit (e.g. "High Security cloud service utilizes the latest deep learning technology to detect abuse and illegal subjects, then we have a team of experienced experts for secondary review").
So tech is the smoke-screen here, but it is immoral no matter how you slice it.
Won't try to get into an argument about what is more negatively impacting society (FAANG or sex industry) but I think it's easier to empathize with the fact that that's someone's child on screen that more likely than not, had no idea what they were getting into.
Do you have sources on this? Abuse was rampant throughout the adult media industry prior to the wide availability of broadband Internet in the late 90s, but since then there has been an ever increasing tide of completely willing participants who go into it with open eyes as a way to support themselves.
Why bother trying to "trick" or force someone into it when it's umpteen times easier to find a willing participant.
Human-slavery situations notwithstanding, of course. Such productions are not mainstream.
I do not understand the second part of the claim, that "most porn has connection to sex trafficking". This seems a fairly strong statement (there's a huge amount of porn, so "Most" is gonna be a very large number), and have never seen anything remotely accurate supporting it (occasional allusions from those who consider porn immoral, but with no meaningful statistical significance). Not to say there isn't a considerable Venn diagram, and that Venn diagram should be reduced through strong law enforcement, but "most" seems wildly inaccurate.
In California they have agents, everywhere else they have pimps.
Just one example: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/adult-film-performer-pl...
It might be hard to digest but a large majority of people in the industry go in by choice. We should have tougher law enforcement to weed out the bad apples, but that is difficult since this isssue seems to involve two things that are extremely nebulous and difficult to weigh. Sex and morality.
Right, they just use force, fraud, and coercion as they recruit, transport, and provide their victims as prostitutes. Totally different...
> "a large majority of people in the industry go in by choice"
Cool, can you share your stats that a "large proportion" of people go in by choice?
If you are genuinely interested in the well being of prostitutes that is.
> Right, they just use force, fraud, and coercion as they recruit, transport, and provide their victims as prostitutes. Totally different...
It is different.
My point is trafficking is bigger than prostitution.
> It is different
Oh, did you notify the Office on Trafficking in Persons?! That's the definition they give for sex trafficking
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/otip/fact-sheet/resource/fshumantraf...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking
> My point is trafficking is bigger than prostitution
Agreed! I thought your point was "a large majority of people in the industry go in by choice" though? I guess not!
if you're going to make a strong claim like "most porn has connection to sex trafficking", you should have strong evidence to back that up
Citation needed
Is "some"? Yes. Is "most"? I seriously doubt it.
Internationally however? Oh hell no. Particularly Eastern Europe has been rife with stories of exploitation for decades, and some Asian countries have an even worse problem with sexual exploitation of minors. For example, Andrew Tate, moron that he is, just made the error of publicly admitting that the police doesn't care about sexual exploitation on camera - now he forced the hands of the police to act.
I mean, money, obviously, but if you can get paid to code porn you can get paid to code for a lot of other things too.
Edit: Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool.
Why am I even surprised?
"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."
"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community." It's reliably a marker of bad comments and worse threads.
Pornography.
Like many here, I have several adult daughters, and I’ve given a lot of thought to what role pornography has in our society.
You can sit there and act like my position is unreasonable, but while you do so, women are being trafficked for porn, suffering violence for porn, being drugged for porn, being coerced by their boyfriends and spouses for porn, and more.
Frankly, you can all spare me the bullshit, as if there could be one iota of legitimacy to the entire adult entertainment industry. Absolutely sickening.
You may be completely right but this is not the way to go about showing it to everyone. We don't want garden-variety internet flamewar here—it's exactly the opposite of curious conversation.
My posts haven’t been rude or unclear. I never made a sharp or crass remark directed at anybody in particular.
You’re characterizing my dismissal of defensive statements about pornography as inciting a flamewar?
I’ve read the guidelines. I need for you to explain to me in clear and unambiguous terms exactly what I’ve said that is not acceptable for HN and why it cannot be allowed whilst speech supporting an industry that systematically abducts, trafficks, abuses and exploits women is acceptable and not say, garden-variety misogyny.
Curious conversation? This place has a point system, fake names, and a voting mechanic, so, give us all a break with the platitudes.
I’m looking forward to your explanation.
Also snark/sneering ("Ah, I didn't realize this was a safe space for perverts who hate women. Cool. Cool cool cool. Very cool.")
We ban accounts that post like that, regardless of how right they are or feel they are, so please don't keep posting like that.
Trust me, the surprise is overwhelming!
What it amounts to is badly interpreted bible verses by the 3 Abrahamic religions as a means of social control over the taboo of sex.
As someone who follows the old religions, I see this everywhere. The men are expected to be open to sex, but women who do are seen as whores. But, that's where the taboo of sexwork comes from.
And to link it back to the article, Calvinism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism ) is the primary and dominant reason why prisons are as brutish as they are. The basic gist of this form of Protestant Christianity is that 'you are predestined to be a horrible person and predestined to be in prison, so we have the right to treat you inhumanely as possible because you deserve it'. Capitalist monopoly forces also have a bearing here in the price gouging, but the basic infrastructure of a prison is brutish because "you deserve it", in a Calvinist sense.