The reciprocal stance by the US would be to allow TikTok but subject it to the same rules Facebook and Twitter and YouTube are subject to.
It's not just China, btw. EU is extra protectionist too. I don't want to be like them.
This is not how the Internet was supposed to work.
Because the case with TikTok is that we do not know what the Chinese government is going to do with whatever it collects from the app. Or even if they do. Or anything really.
Now, while I think banning TikTok's traffic on the campus network is more of a stunt than anything worthwhile. I do see the argument from banning TikTok and just about any other non-essential app from government issued mobile hardware.
That's an area where you'd want to have as little possible surface area exposed as you can.
However, you aren't explaining why UT-Austin should get to decide which apps (that don't affect network operations or campus device security) people can use on their personal devices on UT-Austin network.
Sure, it technically falls under the very large umbrella of "allowing traffic". No one is disputing that they de-facto have that power. I believe the original question was more along the lines of "how can they reasonably justify doing so without jumping to non-sequeters and bs excuses".
I was just bringing up examples of how I believed those powers should be reasonably used and the kinds of situations they were intended for (in my opinion). And the current situation is not how I believe they should be used, but they technically have the power to do it.
Absolutely amazing how 'national security' can just turn off all that personal liberties crap as long as the 'national threat' resonates along your political lines.
Do you realize that core principles matter, regardless of who is on the other side, right? That's the whole point of them. Back in the day, the ones on the receiving end were those opposed to the Vietnam war, and they persevered despite the government and the popular sentiment being against them (being accused of hating the america, being communism sympathizers, etc.) If we didn't hold those core principles dear, regardless of those protestors being "anti-american", imo we would be worse off.
Either way, pretty sure no US citizens have been incarcerated in political re-education camps in the USA because of data shared with any government by either Google or Tik Tok or anyone else.
> They definitely turned over data to the US government to help them locate and connect people of interest
Citation?
> Whether you consider incarceration equivalent to re-education is debatable.
It's not, see above.
> I find it quite likely that they also did this for other governments with less scruples about human rights.
Citation?
> pretty sure no US citizens have been incarcerated in political re-education camps
You can be very sure because political re-education camps don't exist. There is a lot to criticize about the American justice system, this isn't applicable.
And a US citizen has much more to lose if their private data is being shared with the US government than with the Chinese government.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/14/tech/tiktok-china-data/index.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-employees-improperly-acc... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/15/documents...