And yet there are many people of all ages who would disagree and say other drugs (including alcohol) were just as life affirming and low risk based on their own life long usage.
"You clearly haven't taken Meth."
If MDMA users claim it's profound, is it really the same in the eyes of a meth user who has done both MDMA and meth? If the meth user can invalidate the experience with his own, then what does it say in general?
(edit - rate limited so can't respond below. 'Meth' is a strong stimulant, with some associated euphoria, it's not a profound emotional experience like mdma. Yes I'm speaking from experience. Phenethylamine-derived drugs are massively varied in their effects, see also for example the true-psychedelic mescaline, 2C-x and, well, the whole of Pihkal)
My guess is that once you take Meth, MDMA isn't really that big of a deal anymore.
They're totally different. My experience of them was totally different.
I found mdma more personal, soul-engaging, pleasurable and enlightning.
Meth was just overwhelming, rushy, detached feeling euphoria with a air of anxiety.
why do you keep making comments like this about meth in this thread?
better comparison, LSD and shrooms are very profound, but in a different way than E, think like introspective -vs- social
even better comparison is 2ct7, felt like a nice balanced combination of mdma and lsd, profound but not overwhelmingly