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Is this what happens when the driver ignores the steering wheel nag warning? I've never let mine get to that point but I think the car pulls over and stops? (Not saying what the Tesla did here was ok just curious if that's what it was doing)

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In just autopilot, I don't think it actually pulls over. I tried it once, and it put on the hazard lights and began to coast to a stop. I was able to just turn off the hazards and use the pedal to resume driving as normal, so you can override at any time. It does penalize you by preventing you from turning AP back on during that drive.

ah interesting. I guess the lack of hazards here might indicate this wasn't a case of the driver ignoring the warnings. They should have been ready to hit the gas regardless.

Venturing off-topic here but I can't imagine owning a vehicle that sees fit to "penalize" me as if it's my parent or credit card issuer rather than an inanimate object I own to use as I see fit.

If Tesla doesn’t, people would do dumb stuff and the government would end up playing parent.

But that said, it’s fine. People who feel that way should not buy a Tesla or, if they do, don’t use AP. Free market and all that.

Driver was obviously not paying attention. How does someone notice their car braking significantly and not just press the accelerator to counter it? AP will disengage the brake at that point.

I think it’s made extremely clear that you need to be paying attention during FSD/AP. Car may have partial blame for doing something unexpected but driver didn’t do anything to get out of that situation.

> How does someone notice their car braking significantly and not just press the accelerator to counter it?

I imagine shock and panic would be a reason.

This is an unexpected type of unexpected; how do you develop the proper reaction?

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