Football players ruin their bodies through accumulated injuries, not wearing their bodies out.
Do athletes wear their bodies out? I've never heard of that. How does doing plumbing/electricioning wear your body out?
Respectfully, pedantically limiting the phrase "wearing out" to some subset of conditions that conveniently excludes accumulated injuries, the deterioration of cartilage, and other load/repetition-induced joint debilitation adds nothing to this conversation.
Not to mention major injuries are still a big risk factor. Broken fingers, destroyed shoulder joints, missing fingernails, deep burns, scarred cuts, etc. Often never seen by a doc too and never healing properly.
Edit: Downvote me all you like. I've done yoga, I've done plumbing, I've done electrical. Yoga takes the cake by a mile for most painful contorting.
And yet I know an 86 yo woman who has been doing yoga 3 time a week forever and is fit and sharp.
There's your speculation and incredulity, and then there's all the people I've talked to who do it. They disagree with you.
I found out when waterskiing that you don't get strong waterskiing, you get injured. You have to spend a lot of time in the gym so you don't get injured waterskiing.
Back when I was younger in Seattle, lumberjacking was still a thing. They told me that the limiting thing was injury. They'd work into their sixties. There aren't many jobs harder than lumberjacking. I wouldn't mess with any of them, either, they are freakin' strong and I'm sure they could cleave me from head to toe with a casual swing of the axe.
I'm not in the least surprised that people working in trades mess up their backs, nor do I doubt that they do. But injuring one's back is not the same as wearing it out.
When you're doing an electrical job, you might have to put your body in strange contortions that don't follow any harm reducing "correct" forms.
Via cumulative tissue, bone, and sensory damage. Also known as workin' hard.
On the car side, every time you bend a piece of metal it gets weaker. It cannot repair itself. It cannot get stronger from use.
Irrespective of job or sports people can randomly develop degenerative diseases as they age that can be exacerbated by work.
Compare to someone that lifts for 1 hour 3x a week. He will have stronger bones and joints than either a desk potatoe (no stress = no buildup) or the tradesmen (too much stress without rest = failure)
No, I'm not lifting 400 lbs. Weightlifters lift insane weights, does that compare to what physical laborers lift?
I'm a cyclist and a lot of other cyclists are ex-runners whose joints are shot from running. They prefer to cycle because it's easier on the joints but it offers the same headspace as a long run. I also do some climbing and frequently hurt my joints (shoulder and elbow are frequent ones, wrist from time-to-time.) I have lots of friends who also climb who have had to take short or even long breaks from climbing due to the effects on their joints. Lifting on a jobsite is more dynamic than weightlifting and closer to climbing.
It's not about actually wearing out your joints (which can probably take crazy amounts of load and stress over years if you use correct form and rest appropriately), it's more accumulated injury from incentives to use bad form.
I've been running for 40 years. I suffered from knee and hip pain from it, until I read about the biomechanics of running. I ran doing the "heel strike", where the heel hits first. I could feel the shock in my knee and my hip with every stride.
I decided to switch to "ball strike" where I landed ball of the foot first and then rolled onto the foot. I did not feel the shock in my knee or hip after that. A couple weeks later, the joint pain began to subside, and for the last decade has not bothered me.
It takes a while to switch to ball strike, now it feels perfectly natural. Try this experiment. Run with your shoes on, and note your heel strike. Take your shoes off and run again - you'll run on the balls of your feet. This was the epiphany for me.
Running also builds up your heart, lungs and muscles quickly, but the tendons and joints and bones need years to adapt. A lot of people get into trouble by feeling strong and overdoing it. Ya gotta hold back and give it years.
I agree that if you're still having trouble with running, biking is a great alternative.
With your back, take the time to do proper back strengthening exercises. They greatly helped reduce the rate and severity of my repeated back injuries. I strongly recommend talking to a doctor to get a regimen of these exercises. They paid off for me big time. More that once I thought oh crap, I hurt my back again. But nope! Woo-hoo!
I'm not at all suggesting that tradesmen don't get injured on the job and the accumulation of such can be crippling.
Any good resources on this? Getting into running in my early 30s. Already switched to zero-drop, I think I'm ball-striking.
But most of us are way less than that, more like 10 hours a week. And if you are careful your body rebuilds stronger each time.
My knees are not shot from running. In fact I’d wager they are in better health than a desk potatoe that never exercises.
An intelligent man lacking empathy and the ability to put themselves in someone else's shoes.
massibe ignorance of basics of life, and anything outside their bible
>Do athletes wear their bodies out? I've never heard of that.
Isn't "[ruining] their bodies through accumulated injuries" the same thing as wearing their body out?
Not taking precautions, for instance, when driving over potholes can wear certain facets of the car down without doing significant immediate damage, the same way that taking certain falls or hits can wear a body down. You don't need a crash.
Electrictions can work over their head with screw drivers for weeks at an end. There are plenty of bad working positions for their body.
But I did figure the electricians knew what they were doing, so I watched them. I bought the same tools they used, and went to work.
Edit:typo
Joe Thomas, one of the greatest left tackles of all time, retired because he was going to need a new knee. His back also had a lot of issues. Losing a bunch of weight has allowed him to put off some of the surgeries, but he said his knee was bone on bone by the end.
And like lots of people have damaged their knees running. It isn't obscure.
Climbing ladders. The knees go.